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To: Ali Chen who wrote (67323)	1/7/2002 4:22:00 PM
From: jcholewa	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 275872

> Maybe Intel will be able to pull out a > 2.4G, but it must be a stretch Don't you think that this is an exaggeration? I mean, are you comfortable knowing that lots of people just bookmarked your post there? I know that it is not a scientifically valid point (but it lends mild credence, imho), but several of the reviews stated that the Northwood is miserably easy to overclock with air cooling, and that its clock reaches frequencies well over 2.40GHz. -JC

To: Ali Chen who wrote (67323)	1/7/2002 6:44:32 PM
From: Win Smith	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 275872

I'm most curious about availability. It's hard to say why, but the 1.2ghz celeron, the first tualatin based version, was introduced Oct. 3, and 3 months later it only has 20-odd entries on pricewatch. The recently announced 1.3 celery has 0 entries. The 1.26 ghz piii Tualatin has 10 entries. All very odd, or not, for the "yields are ramp, fine is great" guys. If the "flood" of 50mm2 .13um celeries hasn't quite materialized after 3 months, it might possibly be a while before the piv tsunami shows up. My favorite story from today was at the Inquirer, where Bosnian hardware guru Fuad Abazovic ran a 2.0ghz Northwood SDRAM system against a venerable old 1.4ghz DDR t-bird, and the Northwood got smoked. Really badly, for the most part. theinquirer.net .

To: Ali Chen who wrote (67323)	1/7/2002 8:27:51 PM
From: Dan3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

Re: Northwood has 69C max case T, and 17A of quiescent current. Uh-Oh! Thanks for link. That works out to what, 25w power consumption in standby? It is going to present an "interesting" challenge for notebook designers. If they take voltage down to 1.1 for the mobile .13 processor (likely), they'll still be closer to 20 watts than 15. AMD seems to be just a smidgen better at 0.66A typical and 1.54A max. 2.25 watts on standby from a .18 1.5v mobile processor. No wonder why AMD is so happy about their prospects for mobile and high density corporate and workstation/server solutions. (page 43) amd.com