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To: maceng2 who wrote (15992)1/10/2002 2:56:59 AM
From: frankw1900  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Being no expert in ME affairs, I question this piece as a little inflammatory. I expect many of the Arab people see that Palestinians
as losing against the Isreali armed forces. So they ship arms to them. So Putin is aiding Iran to make nuclear weapons, or is
Russia just trading with them like all normal nations trade?


Pearly, what are you up to? The Iranians are not Arabs and have been shipping arms to these guys for decades.

Some items Russia has been selling to Iran easily can be seen as helpful in atomic weapons development. Given the rhetoric coming from some Iranian leaders the last month, this makes me, as well as Saphire, uneasy.

Both Iraq and Iran are unpredictable under their present leaderships. The one country is run by a murderous, imperialistic thug and his family, and the other is run, ultimately, by religious fanatics who are equally imperialist in their ambition. Selling these people stuff which might help them make weapons of mass destruction is not criminally negligent it's criminally reckless.

As for that middle east update, what it doesn't say is that at least one party to the Israel-Palestinian dispute regards negotiating in good faith as an activity of weakness and that breaking an agreement is a means to gaining further ground. How in hell do you get any business done in the face of that attitude?

The last four sentences:

"In a way, for the first time, there is a consensus on where to go,"
Larsen said. The envoy added that everyone, except the Israelis and the Palestinians, seems to agree on the steps required to
break the stalemate in the Middle East peace process. "The problem is that the two parties are unable to take the first step and
this is the challenge at hand," Larsen added. A number of Middle East peace envoys have been touring the region recently on
behalf of the United States, the European Union and Russia, the Russia Journal reported.


The honest envoys will go back to their governments and tell them not a lot can be done until some of the players are replaced, and not just in the ex-Palestine but also in countries nearby.



To: maceng2 who wrote (15992)1/10/2002 5:05:55 AM
From: LindyBill  Respond to of 281500
 
So Putin is aiding Iran to make nuclear weapons, or is Russia just trading with them like all normal nations trade?


I don't know if Putin is letting stuff through that will help make atomic weapons, but I do not doubt that, unless we are both incredibly lucky and competent, some of these Arab nations are going to get atomic weapons. Pakistan is bad enough, but Iran or Iraq?

I have thought for a long time that we might end up pulling radioactive bodies out of Israel. Now, after 9/11, it could also happen here.

That is the main reason I favor extreme measures to make sure we crush these people before they can do this.