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To: Ilaine who wrote (16103)	1/12/2002 1:50:00 AM
From: Maurice Winn	Respond to of 281500

CB, the history is all done, so there's little point in us rehashing it too much. But the Berlin wall was to keep people in. That's no indication of a cold war. That's indication of a lack of freedom on the captive side of the wall. Hungary, East Germany and Czechoslovakia were inside the empire. That's no evidence of a cold war. Having a wall and prisoners could happen if everyone outside was totally indifferent, just as the USA was indifferent to East Timor being annexed and mass murder to repress the Timorese. There wasn't a cold war against Indonesia by the USA though there was plenty of evidence of East Timorese captive people. Having a piece of wall doesn't show there was a cold war. It shows that people couldn't just leave if they wanted to. There is also Tibet, which is in China [as you know]. I haven't heard that there is a cold war on now, but of course China and USA keep a close eye on each other. The USA especially flies up close. Yeltsin was already famous as Mayor of Moscow, before the coup, and was brought in by Gorby to help in the perestroika process because he knew he'd be a good supporter of Gorby's aims against old-style politburo bosses. Mqurice