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To: Paul Engel who wrote (155024)1/12/2002 2:21:25 PM
From: wanna_bmw  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186894
 
Paul, Re: "Intel making all out attack on AMD? Good ship Prestonia has 1MB cache"

Paul, I think Mike has this all wrong. It sounds like he is talking about Foster MP, not Prestonia. Foster MP is also at .18u, so it is not a shrink. Rather, it is the same as the previous Foster, but with the 1MB of L3 and Hyperthreading support. Prestonia is different. It doesn't have any L3 (but it has 512KB of L2), and it's on .13u. Prestonia should also have Hyperthreading. At least, that's the way I previously understood it.

wbmw



To: Paul Engel who wrote (155024)1/12/2002 2:52:10 PM
From: Charles Gryba  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186894
 
Hey, Paul, I guessed right when I said Intel was amassing this huge capacity to build large cache cpus.

C



To: Paul Engel who wrote (155024)1/12/2002 3:32:22 PM
From: Dan3  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 186894
 
Re: The most interesting introduction is the 1.6MHz MP Pentium 4 with 1Mb of cache

P4's architecture is terrible for multiprocessing - Itanium was supposed to be filling that role starting in 1999. P4's long pipeline architecture doesn't do well in an SMP configuration (they were never designed for or expected to have to compete in that area).

With the failure of the Merced/Itanic line, P4 is being pushed into an area for which its basic design is terribly inappropriate. Intel has been losing ground rapidly in the SMP market and is desperate to slow AMD's momentum.

Maybe this will help them, maybe it won't. We'll have to see if a big 8-way cache is enough to overcome the advantage of a moderate length pipeline coupled with a 20-way moderate sized cache.



To: Paul Engel who wrote (155024)1/12/2002 6:00:08 PM
From: Elmer  Respond to of 186894
 
Intel making all out attack on AMD? Good ship Prestonia has 1MB cache

I think Magee is wrong about this being Prestonia. I think this is Foster with a large cache.

EP



To: Paul Engel who wrote (155024)1/12/2002 7:08:34 PM
From: TGPTNDR  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186894
 
Paul, Re: <AMD's troubles in the server market are going to get WORSE !!>

Good to see you quoting Mike now.

But I didn't think you trusted his judgement?

Some of your fellow Bees seem to suggest neither of you know what you're talking about on this subject.

From Wanna
Message 16900003
From Elmer
Message 16900555

But what the heck, you'll spin anything you can to advance INTC's interest.

And I think Mike's credentials are lots better than "The communists did it" yours.

tgptndr