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To: lorne who wrote (10893)	1/13/2002 5:00:43 PM
From: goldsnow	Respond to of 23908

"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary beliefs" Steve Nadis

To: lorne who wrote (10893)	1/13/2002 5:04:58 PM
From: goldsnow	Respond to of 23908

It is an established maxim and moral that he who makes an assertion without knowing whether it is true or false is guilty of falsehood, and the accidental truth of the assertion does not justify or excuse him. ~ Abraham Lincoln, chiding the editor of a Springfield, Illinois, newspaper (from Antony Flew: How to Think Straight p17)

To: lorne who wrote (10893)	1/13/2002 8:37:06 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 23908

I guess what I have been trying to do is to get those posters that are strong blind supporters of the right of palestinians/arabs to show some logical reason why they are entitled to the ownership of the state of Israel. Are you having any luck finding out why? -g- For some (we all know who), the reason is simple: they hate Jews. Anti-Zionism has become the fashionable and acceptable way to express this hatred; quoting The Protocols of the Elders of Zion still gets you labelled as a crackpot, at least in the West. (In Arab countries, on the other hand, it's all the rage and can be seen in all official outlets) For the Arabs, I think the reason is religious at bottom: land that was once Arab and Muslim may NOT become non-Arab and non-Muslim; it is contrary to the will of Allah. Remember how upset bin Laden still is about Andalusia? Also, politically speaking, Israel is so useful to the Arab regimes as an acceptable scapegoat for all their problems that they would practically have to invent it if it weren't there. For others, especially the left, I think the Arab PR campaign has been able to play skillfully upon their ideas and assumptions: colonialism is the root of all evil, and the Zionists came into Palestine while it was governed by the British colonialists, so they are also colonialists and evil, right? Besides, they're being so nasty to the poor underdog Palestinians; can't we all just get along? Believing this line wholeheartedly requires a huge ignorance of both Arabs and Jews and the history of the Middle East, but not to worry, that's available in abundance. -g/ng-