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To: Thomas M. who wrote (10912)	1/14/2002 10:10:26 AM
From: goldsnow	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 23908

In contrast, the Palestinians of today are the very same people who were dispossessed 50 years ago, or they are direct descendants.>>>> History is history...The fact that they tried to destroy theie enemy and failed, than tried again...is History too.. Serbs and Muslim still fight the war that started 500 years ago...

To: Thomas M. who wrote (10912)	1/14/2002 10:52:47 AM
From: lorne	Respond to of 23908

Thomas. Your post..." What happened 50 years ago is massively more relevant than what happened 3000 years ago. For one thing, we don't really know what happened 3000 years ago. There is a considerable school of thought among historians that King David and all those stories are complete myths (along with Jesus and other Biblical characters). Furthermore, the current Israeli immigrants are hardly, if at all, related to the Hebrews of 3000 years ago. In contrast, the Palestinians of today are the very same people who were dispossessed 50 years ago, or they are direct descendants. On one of the sites that you provided it states. " The Philistines, who seemed to be of Aegean origin, settled on the southern coastal plain of Canaan/Land of Israel," " In later periods the inhabitants of this region, which continued to be called Philistia, were of a much more mixed ethnic nature. It is this name (and its later development Palestine) which eventually was used from the mid-Roman period and later as the overall name for the Land of Israel. " I get from this that the land of Israel existed when the Philistines arrived on the scene..." They settled on the land of Canaan/ Israel"....Correct And I guess we could also say that the Philistines have nothing to do with any peoples known as Palestinians...Correct? And I guess we could say that the Jews as a race of peoples have been in that area for a fair bit of time...as long as any of the Arab peoples...correct? And I guess we could agree that what happened 3000 years ago has very little to do with the problem of today however I think it has been proven that the land that is in dispute today " the state of Israel " has been a Jewish homeland almost from the beginning of history...correct ? You said....." There is a considerable school of thought among historians that King David and all those stories are complete myths (along with Jesus and other Biblical characters).".... Can you post a source for the above and also do you include Mohammed, I think he is the guy that started the muslim/islam religion..correct You said..." In contrast, the Palestinians of today are the very same people who were dispossessed 50 years ago, or they are direct descendants.".... Should all lands in Arab countries that were taken from Jews in the last 50 years be returned to them...or their direct descendants..?? Should the lands that are now being taken be illegal means in Zimbabwe be returned. should those folks that are being robbed strap bombs on themselves and try to kill as many Africans as they can. Should the rest of us here in free countries even give a crap what happens in Zimbabwe ?? Do you yourself care what happens in Zimbabwe or is your concern only for Palestinians.? I myself get really PO when I think of places like Zimbabwe but all I can do is bitch here about it. Lorne