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To: Eric L who wrote (17794)1/14/2002 12:56:39 PM
From: Caxton Rhodes  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 34857
 
Anyone know what the actual rates are for dial up? Can anyone using dial up test it using this? internetservices.cnet.com

Click on tell me more about the bandwidth meter.

Caxton



To: Eric L who wrote (17794)1/14/2002 2:13:04 PM
From: mightylakers  Respond to of 34857
 
and both carriers don't have adequately trained staff yet to support the black art of phone as modem connectivity.

I think this might be the primary reason. They are mostly voice centric personals so data is like a new beast from their point of view. Have a friend in CSCO doing PDSN/MIP stuff, he just returned from China, told me it's like playing music to the cows when he was explaining TCP PPP etc to the Unicom crews.

In addition I suspect that they really don't want individuals doing large file transfers on MOU.

FTP sounds like a beast, but in fact it is the apps requires very little QoS constraint. Carrier has the ability to control how much of speed to allocate to a user. So if I'm the controller there I will give top priority to the web users, then email, then FTP... I think the real hog will be live streaming video, but you can control that too. I have tried AOL service and watch yahoo finance video, pretty choppy. The deal about video is that most of people just treat it as a bonus kind of thing, if you have it great, if not then no big deal. So I think slashing the video demand may not really turn the customers away. Streaming voice such as internet radio, can be a real killer apps IMO. Not only it fit into mobile environment, it doesn't require that much of speed. less than 10kbps raw speed will do it.