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To: Thomas M. who wrote (10931)1/14/2002 3:37:02 PM
From: goldsnow  Respond to of 23908
 
More on Judefascist thought..

guardian.co.uk

"These events have divided the world into two camps, the camp of the faithful and the camp of infidels," he declared. For him, this is not the world against terror, but Islam against everyone else.



To: Thomas M. who wrote (10931)1/14/2002 3:41:42 PM
From: goldsnow  Respond to of 23908
 
How Islam Lost Its Way: Yesterday's Achievements Were Golden; Today, Reason Has Been Eclipsed
By Pervez Amir Ali Hoodbhoy
Washington Post, Sunday, December 30, 2001; Page B04

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan

If the world is to be spared what future historians may call the "century of terror," we will have to chart a perilous course between the Scylla of American imperial arrogance and the Charybdis of Islamic religious fanaticism. Through these waters, we must steer by a distant star toward a careful, reasoned, democratic, humanistic and secular future. Otherwise, shipwreck is certain.

For nearly four months now, leaders of the Muslim community in the United States, and even President Bush, have routinely asserted that Islam is a religion of peace that was hijacked by fanatics on Sept. 11.

These two assertions are simply untrue.

First, Islam -- like Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism or any other religion -- is not about peace. Nor is it about war. Every religion is about absolute belief in its own superiority and the divine right to impose its version of truth upon others. In medieval times, both the Crusades and the Jihads were soaked in blood. Today, there are Christian fundamentalists who attack abortion clinics in the United States and kill doctors; Muslim fundamentalists who wage their sectarian wars against each other; Jewish settlers who, holding the Old Testament in one hand and Uzis in the other, burn olive orchards and drive Palestinians off their ancestral land; and Hindus in India who demolish ancient mosques and burn down churches.

The second assertion is even further off the mark. Even if Islam had, in some metaphorical sense, been hijacked, that event did not occur three months ago. It was well over seven centuries ago that Islam suffered a serious trauma, the effects of which refuse to go away.

ontology.buffalo.edu



To: Thomas M. who wrote (10931)1/14/2002 3:45:35 PM
From: goldsnow  Respond to of 23908
 
An open letter to U.S. Muslims

By M.A. Muqtedar Khan | Special to the Sentinel
Posted November 18, 2001









In the name of Allah, the most benevolent and the most merciful. May this memo find you in the shade of Islam, enjoying the mercy, the protection and the grace of Allah.

What happened on September 11 in New York and Washington, D.C., will forever remain a horrible scar on the history of Islam and humanity. No matter how much we condemn it, and point to the Quran and the Sunnah to argue that Islam forbids the killing of innocent people, the fact remains that the perpetrators of this crime against humanity have indicated that their actions are sanctioned by Islamic values.

The fact that even now several Muslim scholars and thousands of Muslims defend the accused is indicative that not all Muslims believe that the attacks are unIslamic. This is truly sad.

Even if it were true that Israel and the United States are enemies of the Muslim world, I wonder what is preventing them from unleashing their nuclear arsenal against Muslims. If anywhere in your hearts there is any sympathy or understanding with those who committed this act, I invite you to ask yourself this question: "Would Muhammad sanction such an act?"

While encouraging Muslims to struggle against injustice (Al Quran 4:135), Allah also imposes strict rules of engagement. He says in unequivocal terms that to kill an innocent being is like killing entire humanity (Al Quran 5:32). He also encourages Muslims to forgive Jews and Christians if they have committed injustices against us (Al Quran 2:109, 3:159, 5:85).

Muslims, including American Muslims, have been practicing hypocrisy on a grand scale. They protest against the discriminatory practices of Israel but are silent against the discriminatory practices in Muslim states.

In the Gulf region we can see how laws and even salaries are based on ethnic origin. This is racism, but we never hear of Muslims protesting against them at international fora.

ontology.buffalo.edu



To: Thomas M. who wrote (10931)1/14/2002 8:41:03 PM
From: goldsnow  Respond to of 23908
 
“It is often claimed by our apologists that "our Jews" were well-treated in the Maghreb and elsewhere. This is simply not true. They were subjected to thirteen centuries of oppression, as bad as or worse than Europe's, which culminated in the Zionist movement. The "largest population of refugees" in the world isn't the Palestinians -- it's the Israelis -- except that they don't call themselves that.''

aldenchronicles.com



To: Thomas M. who wrote (10931)1/15/2002 4:46:32 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 23908
 
Re: Is it any wonder that, as Malcolm X said in another context, the chickens have come home to roost?

Or, as I said on Sept. 11.


Well, that's a wobbly line of arguing because, as I claimed again and again, the chickens have not come home on their own! The "terrorist chickens" were sneaked into the US by a Russian/Israeli/French joint-venture. It's a very important point since it breaks down the anti-US hatred equally among the underlings who executed the 911 atrocities AND the actual mastermind(s).

To put the blame narrowly on the US's poor foreign policy (vis-a-vis the Third/Arab World) and the US's blind support to Israel is to fall right into the Judeofascist trap. Indeed, Judeofascist mouthpieces scramble to brand the whole 911 terror plot as a 100%-Arab/Muslim scheme --with no connections/links whatsoever to some non-Arab third party.... They want a purely Arab cast throughout the chain of command, from the 19 hijackers themselves to the accomplices who helped them in Europe and the US, to the brains who financed and planned the whole scheme. AND I JUST DON'T BUY SUCH CRAP.

History is full of similar case studies of political conspiracies, assassinations, financial scams, etc involving the manipulation of sincere, true-blue terrorists by elusive puppetmasters --whether intelligence outfits, prominent businessmen or rogue provocateurs.... The story of the far-left terrorism and the so-called Red Brigades in Italy is a good case in point: in the 1960s and 1970s, the whole European political map was highly "polarized" (Cold War) and both Communism and Anarchism appealed many young, urban, educated idealists. Most of the early recruits and sympathizers of the Red Brigades --and its German counterpart, Rote Armee Fraktion-- were certainly genuine revolutionaries eager to bring about a better world....

Yet, today, after dozens of Parliamentary commissions, declassified documents, investigative books/reportages,... in Italy, Belgium, Germany,... we've learned that most of these underground organizations were, one way or the other, infiltrated by intelligence finks (Gladio, P2,...) from day one. We'd better keep that pattern in mind in watching the current "anti-terror crusade".

Gus



To: Thomas M. who wrote (10931)1/15/2002 6:39:18 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 23908
 
Footnote to my previous post:

A Strategy of Tension

"The Chickens are coming home to roost." - Malcolm X


constitution.org

Although I don't know what to think of the paper's allegations about the 1995 OKC bombing, I nonetheless find it useful in exposing the manipulative features of most terrorist outrages that shook Europe in the second half of the XXth century.

My conclusion about that whole 911 terror crisis is that it's basically the outcome of Russia's own Gladio-like brainchild. Indeed, just as the US and Europe's reactionary establishment set up Gladio to disrupt the (far-)left, Russia --with the help of French and Israeli intelligence elements-- embarked on a similar strategy and devised an anti-Muslim/Arab counter-intelligence operation. It somehow backfired --badly....

Besides, the following excerpt sheds intriguing light on the assassination of Israel Tourism Minister Rehavam Zeevi --I bet you it was a Lakam job....

Excerpt:

Illustrating the concept of trained killers who work on a "need-to-know" basis, former Mossad Agent Ari Ben-Menashe describes how Abu Abbas launched an attack on the Greek Cruise ship Achille Lauro in 1985. According to Ben-Menashe, Rafi Eitan, the director of Lakam, a super-secret agency in the Israeli Ministry of Defense, gave orders to former Jordanian Army Colonel Mohammed Radi Abdullah, who passed on instructions to Abu Abbas, leader of the Tunis-based PLF, who in turn was receiving millions from Israeli intelligence officers posing as Sicilian dons. Abbas' orders were to "make it look bad," and to show what a deadly, cutthroat bunch the Palestinians were." The "terrorists" complied by killing Leon Klinghoffer, an elderly Jewish man in a wheelchair, then throwing his body overboard. As Ben-Menashe states, the entire operation was nothing more than an "Israeli 'black' propaganda operation."

Nidal began his long and bloody career in the PLO, only to become a bitter rival of Yasser Arafat. It was a situation that the Israeli Mossad, in a manner similar to their CIA cousins, would seek to exploit. As Middle East expert Patrick Seale writes:

Israeli penetration of Palestinian organizations was common, but it was clearly not the whole story. Most intelligence sources I consulted agreed that it was standard practice to use penetration agents not simply to neutralize or destroy the enemy but to try to manipulate him so that he did one's bidding without always being aware of doing so....

Whatever jobs [Abu Nidal] might have done for Arab sponsors, and they had been numerous and nasty, he had done many other jobs from which Israel alone appeared to benefit."

Confirming Seale's theory are top Middle East terrorism experts, including intelligence officers in Arab countries, and even within Abu Nidal's own organization. One French terrorism expert stated: "If Abu Nidal himself is not an Israeli agent, then two or three of his senior people most certainly are. Nothing else can explain some of his operations..."

A former senior Jordanian intelligence officer said: "Scratch around inside Abu Nidal's organization and you will find Mossad."

Backing up these reports was a former member of Abu Nidal's own Justice Committee, who told Seale that Mossad agents captured by Abu Nidal were usually killed very quickly to prevent them from confessing their true motives.

Abu Iyad, former chief of PLO Intelligence, added, "Every Palestinian who works in intelligence is convinced that Israel has a big hand in Abu Nidal's affairs."

Nidal's organization has been responsible for some of the most brutal acts of terrorism in the world. According to the State Department, Abu Nidal has carried out more than 100 acts or terrorism that have resulted in the deaths of over 280 people. Some of these attacks include the 1986 grenade and machine-gun assaults on El Al counters at the Rome and Vienna airports, attacks on synagogues, and assassinations of Palestinian moderates.

He (Iyad) had told me that Abu Nidal's murdering Palestinian moderates was connected with [former Israeli Prime Minister] Begin's determination never to negotiate with Palestinians for fear of losing the West Bank. For Begin (who had once called the Palestinians "two-legged animals" worthy of extinction), the moderates, who wanted to negotiate, were the real danger and had to be eliminated. If the Israelis had in fact infiltrated Abu Nidal's organization, perhaps some spymaster in Jerusalem had said, 'We've got someone who can do the job for us.'

Abu Nidal's most well-known attack was on a Greek cruise ship in 1988 that left nine people dead and 80 wounded. As Seale points out regarding the attack on the vessel City of Poros, "no conceivable Palestinian or Arab interest was served by such random savagery." In fact, Greece was the European country most sympathetic to the Palestinian cause, its prime minister, Andreas Papandreou, often defending Arabs against Israel's charges of terrorism. After the attack, Greece was furious with the Palestinians, who had damaged the Greek tourist trade and hastened the fall of the Papandreou regime. The motive, as in the Achille Lauro attack, was apparently to cast the Palestinians as heartless murderers. Several sources that Seale consulted were convinced the attack was a typical Mossad operation.

What is curious is that Israel has never punished Abu Nidal's organization. Israel has a long-standing policy of launching immediate and massive retaliation against any terrorist attack. While Israeli forces have bombed, shelled and raided Palestinian and Shi'ite positions in Lebanon, and have sent hit teams to kill Palestinian guerrilla leaders in other countries, they have never attacked Abu Nidal. Given Israel's harsh and unrelenting policy of retribution against terrorist attacks, this seems more than a bit bizarre. As Seale concludes:

Abu Nidal is a professional killer who has sold his deadly services certainly to the Arabs and perhaps to the Israelis as well. His genius has been to understand that states will commit any crime in the name of national interest. A criminal like Abu Nidal can flourish doing their dirty work.
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