To: JohnG who wrote (17801 ) 1/14/2002 5:54:40 PM From: 49thMIMOMander Respond to of 34857 The earlier speeding-fine champion (80,000 euro??) was more unlucky last weekiltasanomat.fi "mechanical problem" whil practicing, and it crashediltasanomat.fi Two broken whatever they are, those things forming the spine, luckily only the toes are paralysed, according to the news. One of two brother who formed one of the first internet provider companies, did an IPO, bubbled the fuuuture exptation and sold at the right time. Nothng wrong, even if they don't do much protuctive stuff for a while or ever, taxes on lamborghinis, capital income, speeding fines will pay for the education of many new engineers and businessmen as well as health care, same as they got. (Finland obviously has both a public, full covergae, and an additional private healthcare system, but it takes some basic intellectual honesty to keep them in balance, avoid corruption, on all levels) Ilmarinen Btw, the formula for paying speeding and other fines is intersting, at first sight it seem very complicated, but it is actually pretty simple. Btw,btw, the most important factor in "to each according to their need" is to also check up on the needs, mostly for a productive work, every now and then, not just writing out a check once a month, even if the recipient actually died many years ago. One of the secretes of avoiding, at a minimum, multiple generations of check receivers. Income proportionality in fines is not socialist, but goes back to, for example, the law of the vikings. Legally it is important to note the difference between causing actual damage to another person or breaking the rules of society decided on to avoid damage to other persons. Has something to do with "civilization", I have heard.