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To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (10959)	1/15/2002 11:37:40 AM
From: goldsnow	Respond to of 23908

Huh... what d'you mean?? >>> Not me-you know what I think. Islamic Intelectual... How Islam Lost Its Way: Yesterday's Achievements Were Golden; Today, Reason Has Been Eclipsed By Pervez Amir Ali Hoodbhoy Washington Post, Sunday, December 30, 2001; Page B04 ISLAMABAD, Pakistan Muslims, including American Muslims, have been practicing hypocrisy on a grand scale. They protest against the discriminatory practices of Israel but are silent against the discriminatory practices in Muslim states. In the Gulf region we can see how laws and even salaries are based on ethnic origin. This is racism, but we never hear of Muslims protesting against them at international fora. The Israeli occupation of Palestine is perhaps central to Muslim grievance against the West. While acknowledging that, I must remind you that Israel treats its one million Arab citizens with greater respect and dignity than most Arab nations treat their citizens. Today Palestinian refugees can settle and become citizens of the United States, but in spite of all the rhetoric of the Arab world and Quranic injunctions (24:22), no Muslim country except Jordan extends this support to them. While we loudly and consistently condemn Israel for its ill treatment of Palestinians, we are silent when Muslim regimes abuse the rights of Muslims and slaughter thousands of them. Remember Saddam and his use of chemical weapons against Muslims (Kurds)? Remember Pakistani army's excesses against Muslims (Bengalis)? Remember the Mujahideen of Afghanistan and their mutual slaughter? Have we ever condemned them for their excesses? Have we demanded international intervention or retribution against them? Do you know how the Saudis treat their minority Shiis? Have we protested the violation of their rights? But we all are eager to condemn Israel; not because we care for rights and lives of the Palestinians, we don't. We condemn Israel because we hate "them." ontology.buffalo.edu

To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (10959)	1/15/2002 10:52:35 PM
From: lorne	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 23908

What do you think Gus? who put poor ole arafat up to this. The Russians,French,Israel,The USA, the Swiss,Denmark, maybe Martians....LOL LOL...or the devil made him do it. :o) Arafat and the ayatollahs exposed By WILLIAM SAFIRE Monday 14 January 2002 The radical Islamic ayatollahs of Iran were responsible for dispatching the shipload of 62 rockets and anti-tank missiles, along with 1400 mortar shells, to their proxy warriors in the Middle East. Included were 1400 kilograms of powerful new C-4 explosives to be used by suicide bombers against civilians. The clear purpose of the 50 tonnes of Iranian arms, intercepted by Israeli commandos last week, was to help Yasser Arafat's coalition of terror win Iran's undeclared war on Israel. While the United States and Israel have for a decade been deluding themselves with a "peace process", Iran and its Palestinian proxies have been gaining ground in their war process. Caught red-handed, Arafat is denying any knowledge of what his chief lieutenants and other terror partners have been doing. His pretence of innocence calls to mind Chico Marx's line to a husband when caught in bed with the man's wife: "Who you gonna believe - me or your own eyes?" The arms were marked in the Iranian language, Farsi, loaded on board just off Iran's shoreline, packed in watertight containers to be transferred to small boats and floated ashore in Gaza. The ship, the Karine A, was purchased by the Palestinian Authority's chief arms buyer for $US400,000 14 months ago, just after Arafat rejected President Bill Clinton's Camp David offer and launched his terror campaign. The Karine A's captain, Omar Akawi, an officer in Arafat's naval smuggling operation, promptly confessed the damning details of the purchase and transport of the weaponry, giving the lie to the terrorists' initial denials. He told reporters he thought the mission would be aborted after September 11, especially after Arafat's "order" last month to end bloody bombings, but when his Palestinian boss last spoke to him from Greece, no such change of orders came. This proves to all but the most determinedly blind that the Iran-Arab terror coalition, even with Osama bin Laden's operation routed, has every intention of winning its war. What brought the radical Persians and Palestinians together? After all, Arafat sided with Saddam Hussein in the long Iran-Iraq war in the 1980s, and was Iraq's cheerleader in the short US-Iraq war a decade ago. After Saddam's Gulf War defeat, Arafat switched his allegiance to Iran. The ayatollahs then armed Arafat's Hezbollah allies in Lebanon and became what the US State Department last year labelled the most active state sponsor of worldwide terrorism. European leaders are embarrassed because they recently gave Palestinians millions to feed the starving and now find that their money went for C-4 explosive to kill the innocent. (Actually, Europe's diverted funds went a long way; thanks to Iranian subsidy, for only $US10 million Arafat received arms valued at nearly five times that.) More central to America's security, however, is the strategic reality revealed by the capture of the KarineA: Teheran has again shown itself to be the world arsenal of terror. Iran's ayatollahs have been increasing their sponsorship of terrorist war - yesterday on the "Great Satan" of America, today on Israeli Jews, tomorrow on the whole non-Islamic world. Iran's Hashemi Rafsanjani reminded us recently of the glorious day "when the Islamic world acquires atomic weapons". He acknowledged that in a nuclear exchange the nations of Islam would suffer damage, but only one great nuclear blast "would destroy Israel completely". Two terrorist-sponsoring nations are racing to acquire nuclear weapons. One is Iraq, whose scientists already have the know-how. The other is Iran, whose nuclear development is being recklessly aided by Russia's President Vladimir Putin, despite feeble American protests. Both Iran and Iraq have restive populations longing for freedom from political and religious repression. In conversations over the years, Israeli leaders Yitzhak Rabin and Ariel Sharon have said they thought radical Iran would be the greater danger; Americans like me consider Saddam's threat more immediate. Iranians and Iraqis require liberation before their dictators gain nuclear superpower. Target practice against terrorists in Yemen or Somalia may buy Washington time, but George Bush's big decisions are: (1) how quickly we pre-empt before being forced to retaliate, and (2) which major terrorist sponsor comes first. Saddam is in the lead, but the militant ayatollahs are closing fast. theage.com.au

To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (10959)	1/17/2002 10:22:43 AM
From: goldsnow	Respond to of 23908

Gus, you think you are the last defender of Yasser? reuters.com But Israel said Palestinian President Yasser Arafat bore responsibility for the surge in violence in the past week, which has eroded hopes of ending 15 months of conflict, and a visiting U.S. politician said Arafat must do more to crack down. "There has to be more action. The words are in place. The actions are what are missing at this point," Richard Gephardt, leader of the minority Democrats in U.S. Congress, told reporters in Jerusalem on the last leg of a Middle East tour. Despite the international pressure to make more arrests, Arafat faces opposition at home if he does so. He can ill afford to be seen to bow to Israeli demands and end a 15-month-old uprising against occupation without making concrete gains.