To: Louis V. Lambrecht who wrote (27671 ) 1/15/2002 3:04:16 PM From: Michael Watkins Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 52237 Every time one of these stop runs happens, questions come out. Since I was already in the loop answering some of Rok's questions:cme.com How are E-mini market orders handled on GLOBEX? a26 The GLOBEX trading host will convert all orders it receives without a specific price to limit orders: buy orders will become limit orders at the best offered price, sell orders will become limit orders at the best bid price. The GLOBEX system does not currently handle true "market orders." However, depending on the front-end software and connection, a user's trading application may have functionality that increases the likelihood that an order will be filled quickly at the best available price(s). Market users need to be aware of the functionality of the system they are using and how "market" orders are handled by that system. Which market determines whether an E-mini S&P 500 futures stop order is elected? a28 Such stop orders are elected by prices in the E-mini S&P 500 futures market on GLOBEX. q29 Should a floor broker who is handling a stop order be held liable if the market on GLOBEX ticks up or down after the stop order was elected but before it was filled? a29 Under Rule 540, a floor broker should not be held responsible for executing or failing to execute an order unless the floor broker acted negligently. Because of the way in which orders are executed on GLOBEX in strict price and time priority, it is entirely possible for E-mini S&P contracts to be traded at multiple prices on GLOBEX during the seconds that it will take for the floor broker to enter a stop order after it has been elected. Assuming that no broker negligence was involved, the broker should not be held responsible for the fact that other trades were executed on GLOBEX at a better price than the stop order he was handling. Note that this doesn't appear to be an issue specific to IB.lfgfutures.com The exception to that is for E-Mini S&P and E-Mini NASDAQ. For these markets, the CME arranged for a special tool capable of "handling" Stop orders and Market orders, but there are some important differences to regular Stops and Markets which you should be aware of. In the case of Market Orders, the systems obtain a last price from the Globex2 price feed, either add or subtract a maximum collar, and then place the order to the Globex2 matching engine as a limit order. Stop orders are held in queue and when the price feed from Globex2 indicates that the order has been elected, a last price is obtained from Globex2, the collars are applied, and again the orders are entered into Globex2 as Limit Orders. In most instances, this smoothly handles the transition, but in extreme conditions, there can be important fraction-of-a-second delays that can result in greater than expected slippage or even an unfilled order. Consult your order desk for the specific rules used to handle this situation. Additionally, since there is a delay from election to insertion, it is possible that there can be a significant number of trades in both directions after a Stop is initially elected until it is actually filled. For this reason, there can be no "uptick/downtick" rule or expectation of an orderly market. April 20, 2001