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To: tejek who wrote (141797)1/17/2002 1:43:39 PM
From: TimF  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1584861
 
This is all so much conservative claptrap...

When liberals have to fight, as exemplified by FDR, they do it well.....probably better than conservatives because they have more imagination.


That's so much liberal claptrap. I will give you some credit for saying "probably" but not much.

You should be half, the man that Carter is.

All the information I have supports the idea that Carter is and was a good person, but a bad national leader.

Tim



To: tejek who wrote (141797)1/17/2002 3:05:19 PM
From: i-node  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1584861
 
This is all so much conservative claptrap.

Could you be more specific in your criticism? If you have a complaint with my statement how about some kind of intellectual response?

Conservatives have no trouble waging war because they want control.

Perhaps you have an example?



To: tejek who wrote (141797)1/17/2002 3:17:41 PM
From: i-node  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1584861
 
The "weakness" that you perceive in liberals is actually a sign of evolution. The liberal recognizes that violence begets obedience only short term, and that long term, the end product is more violence.

This is absolute nonsense. There can be no measure of the number of lives that were saved by the Gulf War, a very violent, if one-sided, affair. Similarly, we'll never know how many lives were saved by the current war against terrorism.

On the other hand, we need only look back as far as Vietnam to see a harsh reminder of what weak, liberal leadership brings us: 50,000 American kids dead.

Aside from the bogus issue of the economy, in 1980 nuclear proliferation was the liberal outcry. Yet, strong, conservative leadership brought the threat to its knees.

In short, you can't provide a single example in the last 40 years where a liberal has had significant foreign policy accomplishments. Why? Because with liberalism comes weakness, and with weakness comes foreign policy failure. At the same time, conservatives can to point to a long history of foreign policy successes born of strong leadership.



To: tejek who wrote (141797)1/17/2002 3:21:18 PM
From: i-node  Respond to of 1584861
 
You should be half, the man that Carter is.

You're certainly right about that. As a person, he's exemplary. But he was maybe the worst president in the last 100 years.

Reagan, too, was a great man. But because he had a conservative philosophy and great leadership skills he made a great president.

This isn't all about decency. Decency is a necessary, but not sufficient, condition for being a great president.