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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Greg or e who wrote (9502)1/17/2002 6:41:05 PM
From: 2MAR$  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 28931
 
You are a quite a " revelation " greg ....



Here Jesus , upset with the priestess Jezebel cries
he will have her children killed and other sweet things
done to her dead carcass ....

Revelations 2:20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.

Revelations 2:21 And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.

Revelations 2:22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.

Revelations 2:23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.


And Jesus here demands more of his enemies be brought and killed before him ...such a mighty teacher was he that murder and
killing & genocide would further his causes <g>

Luke 19:26 For I say unto you, That unto every one which hath shall be given; and from him that hath not, even that he hath shall be taken away from him.

Luke 19:27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

Luke 19:28 And when he had thus spoken, he went before, ascending up to Jerusalem.


More from this "Son of God " , filled with such infinite compassion so fresh from the pious sermon on the Mt , see's fit to cure a woman's sick daughter only after
contemtpous and callous reference to her as a dog of Canaan , and God's mercy was not meant for her tribe ,
Jesus makes the woman grovel before he cures
her sick child ....

Matthew 15:22 And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou Son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil.

Matthew 15:23 But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us.

Matthew 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Matthew 15:25 Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me.

Matthew 15:26 But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs.

Matthew 15:27 And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table.


Matthew 15:28 Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is thy faith: be it unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour.


Prophet or Son of God ? Or an uneducated , ignorant , obsessed
& delusional primitive ?

In observing a christian such as you Greg, I have found an answer that is non~elusive and quite clear . This was no prophet , Son of God , or even a a half way decent philosopher . But more often a rude , ignorant , uneducated & mad peasant~preacher , reflecting the hopes , madnesses and barebones dreams of wretched, pitiful, superstitious societies/tribes living with absurd prophecies and a primitive cosmologies.

But then it was all a made up fiction , this Son of God
wasn't it ?

*** BTW : How's the weather up in the Canadian bush Greg ? Try and
lay off the alcohol during the long , cold winter, and
try and get out and get a little more sunshine in your life , sunshine !

(But stay off the beer and other alcoholic drinks . Your thoughts and reasoning reek of both .

regards

Mars



To: Greg or e who wrote (9502)1/17/2002 7:54:30 PM
From: Solon  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 28931
 
"Ah yes, you would ban or burn such books as the bible"

No, Greg. I would do neither. I merely speak against their suitability as a moral guide; and I point out the dangers of fanaticism.

As to your right to free speech: I believe that I always encouraged you to speak what was on your mind...even when the garden was so stunted that the squirrels ran about with tears in their eyes.

So go ahead; tell me how the bible (with its earthly tortures, and the heartfelt promise of tortures to come), validates your sense of moral probity? Since I have known you, you have relied solely on the fallacious argumentum ad verecundiam as a ground for any opinion you have had. My only recourse, in the face of such fanatical simplicity, was to gently point out to you the fact that your "authority" is a cross section of absurd, contradictory, childish, immoral, and risible primitives from our ancestral past. It is one thing to understand the superstitious excesses of a pre-scientific age; it is quite another to put these moral primitives on a pedestal for emulation.

For a grown man to simply ignore logic and reason when it interferes with his dogmatic beliefs, I find incredible. I am in awe at your continued willingness to simply insist that you will not be confused by the facts...