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To: LindyBill who wrote (16797)	1/19/2002 11:36:20 AM
From: 49thMIMOMander	Respond to of 281500

I did not add up the religious aspect of Israel, just the basics of a - 2-block multiparty system - based on party lists - 50% demand on forming government plus no centrist, moderate party, which would make it - possible to form govrnments, make decisions without the small extremes - less possible for the small extremists to grab the chance to try to disrupt the majority gvmnt. plus the basic mechanisms, problem with party lists, - on the positive side proportional representation - but the party elite puts the candidates in the order on the lists - people vote on the party, picks one list of many, not on person - the elected are picked from the list in the order top-down. the result: Whatever (almost) way the people vote: - those candidates put on the top of the list will be always elected, even if not popular - the candidates at the end of list will never be elected, even if they are popular - those 3-4 "at the threshold" have to fight (within the party to be moved higher on the list) But the real problem, "tyranny of the extreme minority", is when the small extreme parties must be included in the govrnment coalition to achieve 50% majority. Nothing wrong in being included, but holding the majority "ransom" with threat of disintegrating the gvnmt is the "tyranny part". This due to a polarized 2-block party configuration, with a viable center party the following basic majority gvmnt are possible x = extremes on the right y = same on the left z= other extremes - right + center - center + left - x + right (+z) - same for both center and left - right + left for example, with distribution right-center-left between 20-20-20 to 30-30-30% Ilmarinen That is, the basics for a - proportional - multiparty - center based - consensus system, in contrast to both 2-party and 2-block systems. (adversarial, polarized systems) That is, the problem on how to produce and keep a moderate centrist party viable and alive, relevant (some say it takes some concensus of "the others" that this is "good for the system")