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To: Bilow who wrote (16891)	1/20/2002 5:17:03 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

The US is getting out of the Middle East in order to enhance US safety. The US will do this regardless of what the consequences to Israel (or Saudi Arabia for that matter) are. Do you have any evidence for this supposed disengagement? Any at all? President Bush said, "2002 will be a year of war." Are we going to fight in Europe? As an example, you've been quoting MEMRI about the "fact" that the Arabs believe that the Mossad caused the WTC crashes. Here's the truth: Look, first of all, get your countries straight. I said that the Arab world, led by major news outlets such as Al Ahram in Egypt, Al Riyadh in Saudi Arabia, and Al Jazeera in Quttar, had widely reported that 9/11 was a Mossad plot. The article you cited quotes the Crown Prince of Bahrain. Bahrain is a different country from Saudi Arabia, and happens to be the one bright spot in the Arab world regarding democracy, as you can read in this Amnesty International article: web.amnesty.org Since the people have a democratic outlet for their dissatifactions, the government of Bahrain does not have to keep waving the Zionist bogeyman front and center, so Bahrain's pronouncements on Israel have grown much more moderate. The Arab world is not a monolith. I myself quoted you some positive articles from minority voices which appeared on MEMRI. But on the whole, denial is very much a river in Egypt: danielpipes.org or this: Special Dispatch No. 327: Saudi Arabia - Saudi Government Press Attacks U.S. Saudi Government Press Attacks U.S. The Saudi government press has recently been sharply critical of the U.S. The criticism is in response to the American press' coverage of Saudi Arabia's reaction to September 11 and also focused on the "Clash of Civilizations" between Islam and the West. Following are excerpts from the Saudi media: Responses to U.S. Media Criticism of Saudi Arabia Saudi papers reacted aggressively to Saudi Arabia's treatment in the U.S. press. An editorial in the Al-Riyadh daily stated: "America, whose media have long been characterized by tyranny, has begun to show such tremendous sensitivity [to the Arab press] that a paper with a distribution of 30,000 or 40,000 in any Arab country that criticizes American policy is transmogrified into a means of incitement to hostility against America…" "Although there are still Arabs who call for dialogue with the elite classes of America, the obstacles posed by the American media separate the Arabs and America. [This is] in addition to the dubious role that the U.S. media play with their bias towards Israel, by depicting the Arabs as barbarians ruled by their sexual and materialistic impulses, and [by showing Arab] traditions and beliefs as the height of backwardness. At this point the dialogue with the U.S. loses its raison d'etre…"(1) "The American media's deranged attack on Saudi Arabia and Egypt created a negative impression of [harmed] the chances of building a bridge of trust between the Arabs and the West!!" wrote Ridha Muhammad Al-'Iraqi in his column in the Al-Jazeera daily. "It pained me that this attack went beyond bi-lateral relations [between America and the Arab countries], and interfered in the Arab countries' domestic matters… accusing the Saudi and Egyptian curricula of disseminating terrorist ideas." "The American press demanded that the Koran not be taught in the schools, and that it be barred from the mosques – on the pretext that it permits the blood of those with opposite opinions, among them innocent citizens! Many columnists and clerics have already responded to this [American] incitement and have disproved the erroneous claims regarding the Koran and the curricula." "In this article I will respond to those who launched this attack using [quotations from] the curricula in the Western schools which show that the West itself trains terrorists who disseminate corruption and oppression on the face of the Earth!!" "A book called 'The Mission,' put out by "Express" publishing house in Britain,(2) is marketed throughout the world… The book includes a chapter entitled 'The Most Dangerous Terrorism'… It presents a possible scenario in which terrorists hijack a plane and crash it into a nuclear reactor. This made a director of a nuclear reactor in the U.S. take a light plane and crash it into the reactor to see what would happen…" "The book also discussed biological warfare… and referred to an American research study in which anthrax was sprayed from the southern end of Manhattan when there was a southeast wind. They said that half of those exposed to the virus became ill, and half of those who became ill died. The number of victims exceeded 600,000…" "These things were written in a textbook [used] in schools and institutes in Britain and many other countries. It presents an organized plan that lacks only the practical execution of terror operations. I am not ruling out the possibility that whoever carried out what happened at the World Trade Center and the Pentagon took the idea from this book… with slight changes in execution – instead of crashing into a nuclear reactor, they crashed into buildings with economic and military significance to strike at the honor of the U.S.!!…" "Following this brief review of the curricula used in Britain and the U.S… can the American press still… accuse other curricula of training terrorists?! Or has it been revealed to all that it is [the British and the U.S.] curricula that produce terrorists… and terrorism plans that wait only for someone to adopt them?!"(3) Some articles addressed America's idea of establishing an Arabic-language television station. Al-Watan columnist Tareq Ibrahim wrote, "…I wouldn't be surprised if I see on this station a program with His Excellency Mufti Rumsfeld, Sheikh [Franklin] Graham, and the Muslim preacher Christopher Ross, who will issue religious rulings for Muslim youth regarding Islamic issues…"(4)