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To: saukriver who wrote (49971)	1/21/2002 6:43:03 PM
From: Thomas Mercer-Hursh	Respond to of 54805

Frankly, I think we are already at a point where a cell phone, at least one of the smarter variety, can be used to perform a lot of what a PC has done. Certainly those that incorporate the calendaring and rolodex type functions of the PDA are doing just that. The real obstacle here for many popular desktop applications is not so much getting enough local computing power or even bandwidth, but the user interface.

To: saukriver who wrote (49971)	1/21/2002 11:28:07 PM
From: techreports	Respond to of 54805

Given that you can get a palm or other handheld with as much power as the computer in 1993-94 (if not later) and given that the cost of linking those computers together is falling and falling, I think the threat is must closer than you apparently do. Comparing the power of a palm is not a fair example. PalmOS type devices use Motorola's dragonball processor which is 16 bit I believe. Palm is working on a 32-bit version of their OS that runs on ARM processors. Those dragonball processors run at like 33MHz, whereas, Intel is making 250MHz ARM processors (they call them XScale). With-in a year, Intel could be making 400 or 500MHz ARM processors. Compaq, HP, Casio, NEC, Toshiba have selected Intel's StrongARM SA-1110 processors. It runs at 206Mhz. 7 years from now. We could see 400 million smart phones running an advanced OS that is not controlled by Microsoft. Pretty big value chain that could one day threaten Wintel. Unless the PocketPC OS gain in popularity.

To: saukriver who wrote (49971)	1/22/2002 7:00:35 AM
From: Dexter Lives On	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 54805

You stated an argument that is a truism as if to make it relevant. No I stated it because the poster seemed disconnected from reality; realistic constraints and current installed technology cannot simply be ignored, no matter how inspired a business plan. Eventually, I will be able to from my handheld use the computing power of other handhelds and other computers. At that point, indeed the handheld becomes something of a dumb terminal that aggregates everyone else's computing power (particularly idle bandwith), whether in small or large computers, across as distibuted network. *I agree completely. You need to reread the original post I responded to - this is not at all what was being claimed* by techreports.** BTW You're assuming that by accessing another device's resources that you're using a bluetooth or 802.11 connection. You're not suggesting that a 3g network will facilitate that connection, are you? Given that you can get a palm or other handheld with as much power as the computer in 1993-94 (if not later) and given that the cost of linking those computers together is falling and falling, I think the threat is must closer than you apparently do. Examine the sizes of the respective containers - do you believe Moore's law is in full effect for a phone-sized device? Nanotechnology holds promise but is some ways off. Cheers. Rob