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To: tejek who wrote (142120)1/24/2002 3:24:52 PM
From: TimF  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1579130
 
Again, I gave you the analogy.......I am sorry you don't see how its analogous.

The analogy is specious. Your analogy would be accurate if people said "don't try to control guns, let people die because we can't stop all guns". In your analogy guns are the cancer. And gun control is the cure for cancer. It would be more accurate to call gun control the cancer because it caused more deaths.

You were the one who described this group as kooks.

I did nothing of the sort. I said people some people in the media think of them as kooks.

All I suggested to you is that if that's how you think the world perceives gun advocates, then you might consider why that is instead of worrying what the press thinks or doesn't think.

I worry about why the press thinks that in a way similar to how I worry about why radical Islamic terrorist groups hate the US. In both cases if you hope to counter them it helps to understand them, and in both cases most of the reasons for thinking the way they do are not based on reality.

Real quickly, when is the last time, you've heard of a white man being tied behind a car and forced to run behind that car til he dies?

White men and women are the victims of awful crimes too. If you adjust for the % of whites and minorities that live in poverty stricken areas I'm not sure that minorities are the victims of a greater amount of crime then whites. Some of the crime against whites is racially motivated. Most crime against whites or minorities is committed by people of their own race. Most minorities have not had things like this happen to them, nor do they know anyone who knows anyone who has seen something like that.

Do you really think that the fact that blacks can sit in the same restaurant as white people makes up for being
forced to run behind a car until you die? That this is an example of "discrimination as much for them as against
them?"


No, being able to sit in a restaurant doesn't make up for getting murdered. But then people of all races get murdered sometimes in horrible ways. The example of discrimination against whites is affirmative action and diversity programs. This isn't some hateful criminal committing a horrible but isolated crime, it is rather official discrimination, sometimes mandated by the courts.

You honestly believe that all official discrimination has been removed?

I said just about all. You wont ever remove it all unless you remove bigotry and unjust racial prejudice from peoples hearts. But the rules are now all against racial discrimination rather then being set up to support racial discrimination.

and I wish we were further along in realizing M.L. King's dream.


So do I. I think it many ways we have realized it but people are still too often judged by the color of their skin rather then the content of their character. I'd like to see people treat black or white skin the same way they treat brown or blonde hair.

Tim