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To: Doren who wrote (31993)	1/25/2002 4:04:52 AM
From: Cogito	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 213172

>>When Gates declared Microsoft was going to take over the internet after arriving late at the party, they did that pretty well also.<< Doren - I don't get this part of your post. How has Microsoft taken over the internet? They did win the browser war, although their tactics seem to have caused them some longer-term problems. They have increasing market share in web servers, I suppose. Nonetheless, Sun servers still run a large part of the net, with a lot of Linux and FreeBSD thrown in. MSN, on the other hand, has not been a huge success. Do they even make money on it? (I don't know, because I haven't really looked at their financial reports.) - Allen

To: Doren who wrote (31993)	1/25/2002 9:43:11 AM
From: OrionX	Respond to of 213172

I wouldn't bet on it. When Gates decided to develop a graphical interface they did it. It took a while but they've done a reasonable job. When Gates declared Microsoft was going to take over the internet after arriving late at the party, they did that pretty well also. Stability was an issue, certainly the newer OSs they've put out are more stable. I think now they've decided to take on the security issue and comparisons with, Linux and possibly OS X UNIX security. I think we all agree they don't do it best very often but they seem to be able to do it well enough most of the time. Doren, Sarcasm aside, MSFT only achieves reasonable product development albeit with a lot of time because they are a monopoly and not because they have the talent or innovative know how to do so. There's no way msft would have achieved anything of what you have said if they had to compete fairly with everyone else. It was never a fair fight. Now, does that mean msft can achieve anything they set their mind to? Possibly. However, security is one of the more complex challenges around. Give msft many many years to even get close to what they promise, if they ever do. Finally, msft is the last company on the planet I want to dictate the kind of security I need on my computer or in the internet. I don't trust them and I don't have to like them.