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To: TimF who wrote (156856)	1/25/2002 1:21:43 PM
From: semiconeng	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 186894

So Enron's behavior, and the behavior of the Arthur Anderson employees who turned a blind eye to it, means not only that all AA's auditing or consulting activities are useless but beyond that it means that every client they have is shady? That's nonsense. --No, it means that AA is willing to bend the rules if a client wants them to. And that makes all their Data Analyisis suspect. Even ignoring Joe's point about AA being decentralized and even if we assume for the sake of argument that AA has no credibility at all, that does not say anything about AMD. --Does Joe work for AA and know how they operate? Or did he just say "Probably". I read probably, which means that Joe's speculation is no better than mine. If I checked your engineering work the fact that I am not an engineer and have no experience with semiconductor manufacturing would make my checks worthless, but it would not mean that you are doing shoddy work. It would say nothing about the quality of your work or your statements about the results of your work. --It sound like you're trying to make the excuse that AA didn't know what they were doing when they verified AMD's numbers, because they're not in the semiconductor business. Then it would seem they should have mentioned that to AMD. Dishonesty? --And of course you couldn't tell the quality of my work if you're not an engineer, but if something I engineered failed, then it was discovered that I had falsified or ignored pieces of the Experiment Data, or "Looked The Other Way", then it could logically be asked what other data has Semi most likely falsified. You don't have to be an engineer to ask that question. It would at most say that AA would look the other way if AMD gave them messed up data, it doesn't say that AMD did give them messed up data. --And is "Looking The Other Way" a good credibility rating for an Accounting Firm? If you discovered that a firm that YOUR Company was using, was "Looking The Other Way" on another client, that covered up impending failure, that eventually resulted in Government hearings, wouldn't you want the work they did for you to be reverified? I'de want to take that precaution..... You wouldn't? -- And also, AA's Lawyers also don't seem to be too honest: Hand still pressed firmly to our heart, we resolved to look elsewhere for Dumb Things. Specifically, we looked to Chicago, where it was reported this week that Nancy Temple, an attorney for Enron's auditor, Andersen, had a fascinating response to an October email sent to her by Andersen's chief Enron auditor. In the email the auditor raised concerns about a potential misunderstanding that might arise among investors as a result of the wording of an Enron earnings release. As reported by the Associated Press, Temple's response was to ask the partner to delete her name from his email, along with any reference to having consulted with Andersen attorneys. "If my name is mentioned it increases the chances that I might be a witness, which I prefer to avoid," she wrote. thestreet.com --Seems to me that Dishonesty and "Looking The Other Way" when it suits them, is a Standard Operating procedure at AA. And the benchmarks from sites all over the internet seem to support AMDs contention that an Athlon XP with a particular model number overall have greater performance then a P4 with that many mhz. Tim --I think that a fairer way to state it would be that Some do, some don't. But I guess that depends on a persons particular bias. --So, can I assume that you are rejecting my proposal?? Message 16960702 Semi

To: TimF who wrote (156856)	1/25/2002 1:49:15 PM
From: Jim McMannis	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

dailynews.yahoo.com Police Say Former Enron Executive Commits Suicide Slideshows Reuters Photo Enron HOUSTON (Reuters) - Former Enron Corp. vice chairman J. Clifford Baxter committed suicide on Friday, found with a gunshot wound to his head, Texas police said. Sugar Land police department spokeswoman Patricia Whitty said Baxter was found inside his car early on Friday with a self-inflicted gunshot wound to his head, and a suicide note at his side. There were no apparent signs of foul play, she said. Enron confirmed the death in a statement. ``We are deeply saddened by the tragic loss of our friend and colleague, Cliff Baxter,'' the Enron statement said. Baxter was vice chairman of the collapsed energy trader when he resigned in May 2001. He lived in Sugar Land, a suburb on Houston's southwest border.