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To: TimF who wrote (142147)	1/25/2002 6:01:38 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1579032

In my analogy I equating the difficulty in finding a cure for cancer to the difficulty in controlling guns. Thats a poor analogy. Guns can protect you against other people with guns. Cancer doesn't protect you against cancer. Getting cancer is bad, I don't think there is any good cancer. Guns are not universally bad. They can help they can hurt, or they can do neither. No one would fight for the right to have cancer. Tim, you might not consider the analogy poor if you could get away from making the analogy between cancer and guns, and instead make the analogy about how difficult it is to cure cancer vs how difficult it is to stop the proliferation of hand guns in this country. Actually, controlling the proliferation of guns would be the easier task if it weren't for the NRA. Controling the proliferation of guns would cause more deaths from guns in the US, unless the control extends to an enforcible ban. NRA or no NRA it would be very hard to enforce a ban and the last people left with guns would be hardend criminals. If that were true, it would be very easy to kill people in Sweden, Germany, Norway etc. since very few have guns. The criminals should be able to pick them off with ease. Yet, gun usage is low. I viewed your comments as admitting that there was reason why gun advocates are considered kooks. And my suggestion was, you might want to consider why that was. The reason is that many in the media thing that those who fight against gun control are kooks is that they are biased for gun control. Gun advocates are sometimes considered kooky because they are a throwback to another era where people carried guns on a regular basis........its reactionary, and does not seem like an appropriate trapping for a modern, civilized society. Your comments re crimes against whites do not reflect my experiences at all and thus, are not worth my arguing. Are you claiming that white people are not murdered or are not the victims of awful crimes? I am claiming that whites and Christians in this country do not experience proportionally the level of racial and religous hate crimes experienced by non white, non Christian minorities. I have worked under the affirmative action laws and never once thought I was discriminated against or deprived of a job because I was white. I haven't either. However others have and this is legally enforced discrimination in some cases. Trying to stamp out such discrimination is not lame. It not lame if its true. However, 90%+ of the times that I have seen whites scream that affirmative action/racial discrimination prevented them a promotion, the reality was the person was a screw up. This was not true all the time but enough that I can't take this complaint too seriously. Like I said in my earlier posts, I have seen whites get around affirmative action requirements and anti racial laws with little effort. Certainly these laws have cut down on the amount of outright discrimination but by no means have eliminated it, and certainly, don't address the subtle discriminatory behaviors that go on in our culture on a daily basis....nor should they. Getting rid of such discrimination against whites in and of itself makes things more just, plus it will hopefully reduce race centered thinking and cause people to treat other people as people, not as whites, blacks, asians, or whatever which should cause a reduction in unjust discrimination by individuals against people of all races. (but it will take awhile it wont be an overnight thing) Getting rid of prejudice would be nice but until then, we have to accept certain realities and can't pretend that things are different in order to support a particular view of the world. That's why I can't get behind that Townhall article. ted