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To: TGPTNDR who wrote (68915)1/25/2002 3:01:48 PM
From: fyodor_Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 275872
 
TGPTNDR: and besides that the P4 is hopeless

It isn't the killer chip one could have expected, considering the die size and the resources thrown at it. However, calling it "hopeless" is a far cry from the reality.

Intel shot themselves in the foot by coupling P4 exclusively with Rambus memory from day 1. With DDRSDRAM chipsets, as well as plain-old SDRAM chipsets, now available, P4 is starting to sell really well.

Have you looked at the Northwood benchmarks?

Performance is actually quite good:

Content Creation (SysMark and Winstone) performance is up an amount corresponding to a speed grade increase (i.e. a NW @ 2GHz performs as an old P4 would at 2.1GHz).

3D Rendering (Maya, Bryce and 3DSMax) performance is up 1-3 speed grades.

3D Gaming (Q3, RTCW, Serious Sam, Max Payne) performance is up 2-3 speed grades.

There are plenty of other benchmarks that show the same pattern - only very few show little to no gain (UT and multimedia encoding are the only two I can think of).

Also noteworthy, power consumption and die size are both down ~30%.

And what happens when HyperThreading is turned on?

I've seen no 3rd party benchmarks yet, but going by the Intel PR&#133 Well&#133 Let's just say that calling P4 "hopeless" is just not in line with reality.

-fyo



To: TGPTNDR who wrote (68915)1/25/2002 3:02:10 PM
From: AK2004Respond to of 275872
 
TGPTNDR
re: fell of the face of the earth
I was on vacation which is close :-))
re: Most likely not. They just came to the conclusion that '8(years) is not enough
perpetual development mode. :-)) It is surprising that with each year of development there is no increase in cost,
Regards
-Albert