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Non-Tech : The Enron Scandal - Unmoderated -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Ann Corrigan who wrote (703)	1/25/2002 9:18:59 PM
From: stockman_scott	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 3602

*Here are some new conspiracy theories about Enron... (taken from an Enron thread on fuckedcompany.com) <<posted 01-25-2002 04:37 PM The guy who just "killed himself" was one of the company's biggest critics, and went out of his way to try and convince the execs to stop playing games. Since the memo that Ms. Watkins wrote warning execs about fraud mentioned Baxter by name, it proves to the public that Baxter was pissed about the fraud and trying to stop it. We're talking big money politics here- you don't think enron execs could afford to have the #1 witness murdered? And what's the favorite way to try and keep people from investigating a murder? Make it look like suicide or an accident.>> _______________ <<Originally posted by @guy...: Anyone else remember the senior VP of Bre-X who accidentally "fell" out of a helicopter to his death a few weeks after their company collapsed in scandal? LOL. I expect senior execs from Arthur Anderson to start turning up dead soon..>> _____________________________ <<posted 01-25-2002 07:23 PM CNBC just reported that Baxter was seen by a reporter who tried to visit Baxter several days ago. (I don't remember, but I think the reporter was with the local Houston paper.) The reporter said that Baxter was unshaven and unkept looking, and that his X-mas tree was still up. Police have released details on the suicide note, saying that Baxter said he was depressed over the Enron matter and distraught over the possibility of having to testify against his friends in Enron before Congress. I smell bullshit. If this eyewitness reporter is telling the truth, then Baxter may have feared for his life for some reason. He could have been kidnapped from his home, driven to the location of his death, and killed.>> ______________________________ <<The guy was a multi-millionaire, and if he was indeed a whistleblower, he could have bought himself out of a jam in the legal system. Probably could have been given protection for his testimony. The worst thing that might have happened to him is that he would have had to spend a couple of million protecting himself legally and spending 5 years in a cushy Federal prison. Killed himself? I find it odd that the police seemed quite quick to declare his death a suicide. My dad once told me you can't buy off or influence the rich. The only thing left you can do to them is to kill them.>> _____________________________________ <<posted 01-25-2002 05:42 PM Suicide? PALLLLLEEASE! We're talking about the same American justice system in which O.J. got off, and the Juice wasn't anywhere near as rich as this guy. If he sang in front of a Congressional committee, he could have been given immunity and made himself out like one of the Big Guys who was looking out for the Little Guys (Enron employees) who got screwed. He could have been a de facto hero. It's very odd that the police appear to be blowing this off as a simple suicide. You would think that they would seriously look into this more closely considering what's going on with the company, but, oh, NOOOOOOOO...he was just sad, depressed about stuff and killed himself. The "suicide note" proves it after all. If this happened with Clinton still as prez, you just know that the Republicans would be reaming him. But this seems far more disturbing and connected than anything Clinton was accused of, besides taking a BJ from a fat intern chick.>> ____________________________ <<OK, let's play conspiracy theory. If there is one, then who's the likely culprit in all of this? I say it's not Bush but Cheney. Maybe Baxter had something on the VP -- maybe on deals that Cheney made with Enron about the country's energy policy. The whistleblower chick can be disgraced or ignored, but a rich former Enron exec who had the goods on a powerful person in the current administration could theoretically be a threat. Bush is probably clueless about all of this. If things really get bad and the heat grows, maybe Bush will replace Cheney in 2004 -- that is, if Bush has the balls and if he actually has any control over what really goes on within his administration (which appears to be in doubt).>> _______________________________________ <<posted 01-25-2002 06:06 PM Follow the money & the bodies,someone is going to make millions just from the book right's on the continuing saga of the Enron, Masters of the Universe>> ________________________________________ <<posted 01-25-2002 06:06 PM Originally posted by truth_will_prevail: Didn't Vince Foster commit suicide to? Wouldn't be cool if this ex-executive's suicide was somehow related.... the folks in that last administration had a life span of about 2.5 years in the public spot light....... Oh and Ron Brown...the former commerce secretary who had Enron ties...forgot about him... This story keeps getting interesting... BTW: JFK was only killed with one bullet...The cops said so..>> _______________________________________ <<Originally posted by HockeyDad: Exactly. Did you see my comment about how his car was found near his home in a median? Why leave home and go a few yards to kill yourself??? Snap decision? Doubtful. Hey gang. These things just happen.>> _________________________________________ <<Originally posted by NeroLivesOn: Looks like Andersen has finished with the files and is moving on to people-shredding... its phase 2. You know, thoroughness is really what you are paying for in a big 5 accounting firm. Andersen would've used a woodchipper, like in "Fargo.">> ______________________________________ <<posted 01-25-2002 06:38 PM and another point... how long can the fuckin' media continue to report this stuff with a straight face... like that's really what actually did happen and no one with any sense would question the story we're getting??? the bizarreness of events is accelerating exponentially... how much more can we take???>> ____________________________________ <<posted 01-25-2002 06:51 PM Re: Vince Foster, even the Republican's beloved Ken Starr looked into this enough to realize it wasn't worth investigating. Originally repubs claimed he killed himself because of whitewater, but we all know now that whitewater wasn't even a scandal. This, on the other hand, looks much more like a murder. There is a motive and lots of money on the line. If you pay someone ~30 million bucks to take someone out, you can get someone who works for the police, who knows what the cops and forensic specialists look for. You can get some very smart person on the inside to murder someone and make it look like a suicide. No witnesses, no forensic evidence pointing to a murder. Case closed, this can't go very far. The truth will never be known. And Chandra Levy's whereabouts remain unknown. And OJ walks about a free man. Money talks.>>