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To: jim black who wrote (14039)	1/26/2002 8:31:50 PM
From: Raymond Duray	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

Cliff Baxter, Henry Marshall and THE ESTES DOCUMENTS Hi jim, Dang, I was just getting to enjoy your conspiracy theorization and now you've decided to self-censor. Let me take up the banner with a bit of a historical digression on the nature of playing hardball, Texas style. Cliff Baxter's death fits a pattern of suspicious "suicides". Here's one from the early 1960's that involved a man who got cross-wise with some very powerful figures of that era: home.earthlink.net The admission that this was a murder took about 20 years. La plus ca change, la plus l'meme chose. -Ray

To: jim black who wrote (14039)	1/26/2002 10:58:05 PM
From: AC Flyer	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74559

>>We will see if we get a sordid truth, ie, murder. Whether it was or not we will probably never be told and never find out. Lay has millions in offshore accounts no doubt which he could use through sources probably available in "Soldier of Fortune" magazine for all I know.<< You have, Jim, like the rest of us, seen too many movies. You underestimate the difficulty of locating a contract killer, making a payoff and then ensuring that the contract is carried out, imo. The probability of a corporate executive with no ties to organized crime pulling this off is zero.