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To: unclewest who wrote (17327)	1/27/2002 7:38:41 AM
From: maceng2	Respond to of 281500

this world war is just getting started. Well, I hope not, but you may be right. World wars have a very different flavor now that nukes are in the equation. I make my view clear because I do appreciate all that I hold near and dear. I hope everyone else is making the necessary preparations for supreme sacrifices too. No point going to war unless you are very clear in your mind what you are up to.

To: unclewest who wrote (17327)	1/27/2002 1:46:28 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

What's particularly scary about today's bombing is that this suicide bomber was a woman. That's the first time they've actually used a woman. It is much harder to spot the explosives on a woman. I think we are waiting for a) the US to sort out its Mideast intentions and give Sharon the green light, or b) for Arafat & co to have a real lucky day and kill 100 Israelis in one go, whichever comes first. As for current Bush Administration attitudes, here is the latest report from Fox via Haaretz: Cheney asserts: Arafat getting weapons for PA from Iran By News Agencies Vice Predident Dick Cheney: Arafat has gone to a state that supports terror. WASHINGTON - Vice President Dick Cheney suggested Sunday that Yasser Arafat and his aides are working with Iran and the terrorist group Hezbollah to get weapons for his Palestinian Authority. Cheney's comments followed remarks by U.S. special envoy to the Middle East Anthony Zinni, over the weekend, that Arafat is "an unreformed liar". Speaking in Washington, Zinni also compared him to a Mafia boss akin to New York Mafioso Carlo Gambino. Zinni also compared the Palestinian security service leaders to Mafia bosses who boast about their weapons and the number of people they have killed. In contrast, Zinni described Prime Minister Ariel Sharon in warm terms, called him a "Papa-Bear" who had aided him during his mission to the region. Although Cheney said he wasn't sure whether Arafat went to Iran first or vice versa, the vice president asserted, "I know where he acquired the weapons. He did acquire the weapons from Iran." "The really disturbing part of this, of course, is that there are a lot of places he could go in the Arab world if he were looking for support and sustenance or for help in moving the peace process forward," Cheney told Fox News Sunday. "Clearly, he hasn't done that. What he's done is gone to a terrorist organization, Hezbollah, and a state that supports and promotes terrorism, that's dedicated to ending the peace process, Iran, and done business with them," he said. Cheney also raised questions about Arafat's knowledge of a boatload of weapons from Iran that was seized earlier this month by Israeli commandos. "Arafat has not acknowledged responsibility, but based on the intelligence we've seen, the people that were involved were so close to him it's hard to believe that he wasn't involved," Cheney said. [nc: the Washington Post has reported that Arafat denied all involvement in a letter earlier this week, and that administration officials were "incredulous" and felt "insulted"] "The latest example of the escalating violence in the Middle East, much of it prompted by Palestinian suicide bombers, raises serious questions whether Mr. Arafat is in fact really interested in moving forward with the peace process," Cheney said. "Arafat must take the first step to prove he is making an effort to quell the violence and bring peace to the region," he added. "He must aggressively rout out the infrastructure of the terrorist organizations in Palestine and arrest those known to plan or support such acts," he said. "Arafat must do everything he could, make a 100 percent good-faith effort to put an end to terrorism. So far he hasn't done that." In an interview on PBS's "NewsHour With Jim Lehrer" over the weekend, U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell reiterated President George Bush's remarks that Arafat must take measures to rout out terror. Powell stated that, "This is in some ways a moment of truth for Chairman Arafat." [nc: What, another one? There's one every month] haaretzdaily.com