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To: LindyBill who wrote (17371)1/27/2002 7:19:00 PM
From: Nadine Carroll  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Lets not kid ourselves. All rights to "real property" in the world have started off as a result of the use of force. International Law still recognizes that property seized as a result of war can be legal.

Yes, that's true. But CobaltBlue seemed to be talking of buying property in the case of the American settlement, which is particularly problematic because most of the Indian tribes didn't every have the concept of individual land ownership. A few thousand Indians would ride through a few millian acres once a year and say it was "theirs". The European settlers would not have had any good way to respect those land rights even if they had wished to, which they didn't.

There is only one example I can think of where a nationalistic movement tried to acquire land rights to a country by legal purchase -- the Zionists bought all the land their acquired in Palestine before 1948. Much good it did them.



To: LindyBill who wrote (17371)1/27/2002 7:28:05 PM
From: Ilaine  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
>>International Law still recognizes that property seized as a result of war can be legal.<<

Does it? We seem to insist that people return property which they took during war, as far as I can tell.

It is true that we used to go around grabbing other people's property, willy-nilly, but we used to think it was ok to enslave people, too. Now I think we think both are a bad idea. At least I do.