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To: goldsheet who wrote (81201)	1/28/2002 3:36:25 AM
From: E. Charters	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 116759

Oil is very finite. Food (arable land) is shrinking not expanding. It will feed us now. Not double us, for sure. The sea, lakes and rivers are running out of fish. (cod stocks drift nets, oil slicks, fishing out of Great Lakes, killing of CDN rivers by waste dumping of acids, poisoning of foodstuffs with pesticides, herbicides.) When we find out finally that we cannot use pesticides and herbicides any longer because of cancer rates going through the roof, food production will decline. Soil depletion in Western Canada will force multi crop rotation in 15 years. Wheat production will automatically fall by 40%. Soil will be unusable in Kansas, Saskatchewan in 20 to 40 years. Hydroponics will save us for 40 years after that it is want. Perhaps not starvation but want. When pesticides are banned, the lowering of crop yields will only be perhaps 5% though. Right now songbirds and frogs and many higher species are extincting to coin a phrase. We can see the frogs mutating and dying. I have counted the vanishing of perhaps 30 songbiord species in my lifetime from common sighting. They are a barometer of planetary health. It must be from planetary poisoning as well as habitat depletion. If the ozone layer is done for and it appears it is pretty much depleted, then plants nor animals will survive in their present form. The great ages of volcanism that pumped out more CO2 preceded the age of the oxygen atmosphere, so I would not claim precedent for our levels of greenhouse gases. Since the ecosystem is a gestalt interaction that requires the input of plant and animal species to propagate life (Darwin -- Cats in Conventry .. you need cats for clover) we can say that the signs of eventual life extinction or non sustainability are beginning on the planet. All civilizations ended from one equation and pattern. They could not handle their waste and the crops were yielding less and less. (Maya, Troy many other examples) They started to recycle more and more and got more and more disease from lack of efficient waste handling. Eventually by massive co-incidence they were overrun by enemies, who rebuilt and went into the same cycle. Co-incidence?) Rome invented sewage systems and survived longer than most. (Toronto is "dying" now because it has run out of places to store its garbage.) Lots of food and oil? Perhaps by 1920's consumption standards. As 3rd world becomes 2nd, the energy usage will triple. So will greenhouse gases and global warming. Factor that rate of energy usage into your Funk and Wagnalls calculator. How much oil? What will make alcohol? Hydrogen? Speaking of elephants and snapdragons, --> Always wanted to know the weather next week, didn't you? I know a researcher who wants to predict weather and climate. One of the aims is to determine the trends of global warming. He figures that by using some models and present algorithms, a good co-ordinate system and lots of input, that with one million computers' waste cycles we can predict North American weather perhaps ten or more days ahead accurately and perhaps in the future predict the likelihood of climatic changes and their sources or causes. Sort of like the SETI project program, but with much more practical use ... some useful prediction of needful things. It is a project many of us should think about being involved in. Everybody wants to know the weather. Think of what you could do with that. No more rained out picnics. I would call it - project BAROMETER. EC<:-}