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To: tejek who wrote (142243)	1/30/2002 4:21:32 PM
From: TimF	Respond to of 1578921

What are you suggesting.......a revolver in every lunch box or knapsack? No I am not suggesting that we give guns to all the kids at school I was just recognizing the fact that the good guys don't have guns at schools means the bad guys can kill with impunity until the cops arrive. I am suggesting that someone who intervenes and saves lives shouldn't be treated as a criminal. If guns were not so easy to get, very few school shootings would occur. In Columbine they planned for months before making the attack. They would have gotten guns even if they were not so easy to get, besides banning something doesn't make it hard to get, its not to hard to get cocaine or heroin. If they couldn't have gotten guns they probably would have planted bombs which may have killed more people. but that does not change the fact that they fight every major law intended to restrict gun access and ownership in this country. Consequently, they are indirectly linked to every gun death in this country. They don't fight all of the laws and more importantly fighting many of those laws saves lives. Incidents like that are less frequent then defensive gun use and less frequent then many other forms of accidents. What does that matter, they shouldn't happen at all. We don't think car accidents are okay..... So the fact that millions of people have been defended by guns doesn't matter? Also we don't think gun accidents are ok any more then we think car accidents are ok. In both cases we make efforts to increase safety. In both cases safety has increased. We don't ban cars because of accidents or make it almost impossible for someone to buy one (you can buy one without a license BTW), and it doesn't make sense to ban guns either. No, it doesn't mean that but what it does mean is that we restrict the speed on freeways and we restrict the usage by people who are incapacitated in one form or another. We impose severe penalties for those who are speeding or violating the laws in some other way. There are more restrictions on how guns can be used and the penalties for violating those restrictions is normally more severe. If you speed and cause an accident you normally don't even get you license suspended, you also don't get you car taken away even if you do lose your license. If you fire off a gun without good cause in a residential area you can be subject to severe penalties even if you don't hit anyone or damage any property. Do you really want guns treated like cars? You are quibbling again... No quibbling here. You are putting guns in to a category that includes things like nukes and smallpox and nerve gas, and using that to justify treating an organization that supports the constitutional right to have guns in the same category as terrorists. Words have meanings but you, like Humpty Dumpty, seem to think they mean whatever you want them to mean. If I complain that black does not equal white and you complain I just quibbling over semantics we can't have much of a conversation. You can make your point about people being killed by guns without calling them something that they are not. the significant issue that nearly 30,000 people are killed each year by a gun in this country. I have addressed that issue more then once. You don't like dealing with the fact that most proposed gun control laws would increase that number of deaths, or the fact that millions of people have been protected from criminals by privately owned firearms. Tim