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To: bonnuss_in_austin who wrote (1019)2/1/2002 12:28:03 AM
From: Jorj X Mckie  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 3602
 
you made an assumption and it was a bad one.

kinda like your other little lies and innuendos about people that you throw out there and then don't support.

Weren't you going to put together some examples where I (hypocritically) tried to silence someone here on SI?

This is a particularly humorous statement considering the cryptic form of communication that you employ.
in figuring out who you are and what you mean, think, believe, etc., frankly.

I am surprised that you don't feel more comfortable on Mephisto's Enron thread...you know, where the message can be controlled and never challenged. Seems to me that you think that when someone challenges your opinions, you consider it to be an attempt to silence you. mmmmmm nice warm, insulated and moderated enron scandal thread...mmmmmm



To: bonnuss_in_austin who wrote (1019)2/1/2002 2:53:26 PM
From: Raymond Duray  Respond to of 3602
 
Profound dehumanization and systematic banalization of civilization

bia,

The above quote is from the keynote speech at the World Social Forum gathering in Porto Alegre, Brazil:

thenation.com

Letter From Pôrto Alegre by Marc Cooper Thursday, February 1, 2002

50,000 Celebrate Official Opening of the World Social Forum

PÔRTO ALEGRE, BRAZIL--Flanked by swaying palms and under a sky streaked with flaming orange and pink, more than 50,000 people from around the world filled a water-side amphitheater and, singing "Another World Is Possible," celebrated the official opening of the second World Social Forum.

The state's elected governor, Olivio Dutra--decked out in traditional "gaucho" cowpunching garb, welcomed and thrilled the crowd with a fiery, radical speech that condemned what he called the "profound dehumanization and systematic banalization of civilization" wrought by a global economy driven by market ethics. "We are among millions of other people," he said, "who now proclaim that humanity is not for sale!"

An infectious optimism rippled through the crowd, and the evening was punctuated when an Internet video hookup broadcast live greetings from AFL-CIO president John Sweeney, who was among those protesting in New York City against the corporate World Economic Forum.

Earlier in the day, MIT professor Noam Chomsky--one of the forum's big draws--said he had hopes that the Pôrto Alegre conference would become "a new International" for global social justice movements.

The real work of the WSF begins on Friday. Literally hundreds of seminars, workshops, panels and presentations are scheduled to take place throughout the city for the next five days. The tabloid-sized program of the forum runs a fat 151 pages and boggles the mind in its variety of topics.

Some organizers of the event are hoping that the forum will conclude next week with at least a set of broad strategic blueprints pointing the way for the movement in the post-9/11 world. Other attendees are content just to have gotten here and to have the chance to hear and learn and share with so many others. I'll have more reports from the actual workshops tomorrow.

In the meantime, one of the hot topics here is just what constitutes a proper diet. Indeed, among the many attractions here is something called "The Healthy Feeding Area." Such a space sends shivers of fear up the back of practicing carnivores, its very name evoking images of bland and chewy tofu burgers and soy-based hot dogs.

But it seems the Brazilians have come up with the perfect way to unite vegetarians and meat-eaters. The most common sort of restaurant here is the so-called Churrasqueria. You pay a flat fee--about the equivalent of $10--and first you wade over to what seems like an endless salad bar. Perfect fare for the celery-chompers. But then squadrons of waiters pass by your table holding saberlike spits in their hands, each one with a different chunk of charred meat: beef filet, ribs and flank steaks. Then come the sausages, chicken, giblets, pork roasts. If you can take it, get ready for the lamb and goat. You merely sit and wait and, like in a dim sum house, the waiter will keep piling the cuts on your plate until you say "when."

A good friend calls these restaurants Bovine Eradication Units. I bit--literally and otherwise. And now, as a committed carnivore, I can chow down guilt-free. As one more slab of ribeye fell into our plates, my friend chuckled. "Back in the 1960s when volunteers went to Cuba to cut sugarcane, they would say every machete cut is a blow against US imperialism," he said, in between big chews. "But I think this is more comfortable. And now I can say 'Every slash of the knife is another blow for vegetarianism!' At this rate, cows will be extinct by the end of the decade."

Pass the horseradish.