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To: Machaon who wrote (11274)	2/1/2002 9:03:29 PM
From: goldsnow	Respond to of 23908

The Israeli siege of Beirut has become a major part of Mr Arafat's personal mythology. According to his reading of the events, it was not a humiliating defeat for the Palestinian Liberation Organisation (PLO), which was finally forced to leave Lebanon and reconstitute itself in Tunis, but a heroic moment of resistance. Mr Sharon says Israeli forces agreed not to kill Mr Arafat Whatever his other failings, Mr Arafat has always shown courage under fire. And as Israeli bombs rained down hour after hour on the Palestinians in Beirut, he refused to surrender. His stand may have been at the expense of the Lebanese, thousands of whom were killed during the Israeli invasion. But his defiance meant his leadership of the Palestinian people - whatever the human cost - remained supreme news.bbc.co.uk

To: Machaon who wrote (11274)	2/4/2002 5:38:15 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 23908

As I told you in my post #11194, it all boils down to demographics.... The Palestinians Have a Vision of Peace With Justice Yasser Arafat Monday, February 4, 2002 iht.com Excerpt: We understand Israel's demographic concerns and understand that the right of return of Palestinian refugees, a right guaranteed under international law and UN Resolution 194, must be implemented in a way that takes into account such concerns. However, just as we Palestinians must be realistic with respect to Israel's demographic desires, Israelis, too, must be realistic in understanding that there can be no solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict if the legitimate rights of these innocent civilians continue to be ignored. Left unresolved, the refugee issue has the potential to undermine any permanent peace agreement between Palestinians and Israelis. How is a Palestinian refugee to understand that his or her right of return will not be honored but those of Kosovar Albanians, Afghans and East Timorese have been? There are those who claim that I am not a partner in peace. In response, I say Israel's peace partner is, and always has been, the Palestinian people. Peace is not a signed agreement between individuals - it is reconciliation between peoples. Two peoples cannot reconcile when one demands control over the other, when one refuses to treat the other as a partner in peace, when one uses the logic of power rather than the power of logic. Israel has yet to understand that it cannot have peace while denying justice. As long as the occupation of Palestinian lands continues, as long as Palestinians are denied freedom, then the path to the "peace of the brave" that I embarked upon with my late partner Yitzhak Rabin will be littered with obstacles. The Palestinian people have been denied their freedom for far too long and are the only people in the world still living under foreign occupation. How is it possible that the entire world can tolerate this oppression, discrimination and humiliation? [snip] ____________________