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To: Raymond Duray who wrote (194)	2/2/2002 6:24:50 PM
From: kodiak_bull	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 292

Ray, Let's just review a small portion, but in fact, the only meat, of your post. 1. <<Sunshine is the best disinfectant. Just because Brandeis said something, that doesn't mean that it is always true. Lots of things will grind to a halt if every action, conversation, etc. is exposed, endlessly to your brand of sunshine. All lawyers know this, and seek to probe every nook and cranny of every thing that was ever muttered or mumbled, nodding and arching their eyebrows at the jury. The Bush haters do this all the time, it's sort of an Oliver Stone crowd. Everything is a conspiracy. Did ENE participate? See, I told you so. Steps were taken to save ENE, no, they weren't? See? I told you so. They're thick as thieves and every fact points toward that conclusion, even if it doesn't. If ENE hadn't participated, you would have taken that as proof positive that the fix was in. Why? Because to the pathological conspiratist, everything is evidence of a conspiracy. ENE did NOT participate because they already had Cheney in their hip pockets. See? Their non-participation is proof of that. You see how it works. 2. <<Cheney looks dirty. The angle on this is the quid pro quo thing. Assumption and conclusion. Cheney looks clean, ENE never got any quid pro quo, that's why they're in bankrupcty. 3. <<The investigators are looking for a pattern of inputs to the National Energy Scam (er, Plan) and the timing of corporate donations to the Bushistas. Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean you're playing with a full deck, Ray. Your timing is really out of whack. The ENE donations went to Republicans and Democrats before and during the elections. People donate in order to express their view. You may not like it but it's constitutional and legal. The trial lawyers donate gobs of money to every Democrat in sight, the quid pro quo is to keep the trial lawyers wealth transfer law (aka Civil Procedure) in effect, for ever. And "the investigators"??? You're going to dignify Henry Waxman with that title as though he were Elliot Ness or some district attorney? Puhlleeeease. Out here in the Left Coast we know Waxman and DeFazio for who they really are. The national energy plan, however, was going to be voted on by Congress and before that, go round after round in committee (subject to all kinds of congressional pork requests and the valued input of countless paid lobbyists sitting at the right elbow of each and every c-person and senator). As I noted, if you think the initial input from ENE white papers into a White House plan could end up as a quid pro quo, you're not really aware of how the sausages are made in D.C. You've spent too long on the high desert region of Oregon, amigo. 4. The obvious implication is "pay to play". I don't know if the case can be made. But Cheney, in spite of his bluster, sure looks scared about the prospects. This is really weak, Ray. I know that paranoid conspiracy theorists can do a lot better than "obvious implication." All in all, your weakest effort in some time. Ya think the Ducks can take the Trojans? (I sure do). Kb