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To: sylvester80 who wrote (26405)2/2/2002 11:57:38 PM
From: TREND1  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 99280
 
s-80
Message 16994700

larry dudash



To: sylvester80 who wrote (26405)2/3/2002 9:34:20 AM
From: mishedlo  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 99280
 
>>Mr. Ebbers's shares in WorldCom, including his shares of tracking stock in MCI, the company's long- distance unit, were worth $175.5 million at the close of trading yesterday. But his reported debts exceeded $268 million as of last March, an amount that has probably risen as interest charges have been incurred since then.<<

nytimes.com

Not that WCOM has any free cash to pay debts with anyway.

>>Over the last 19 years, investors have poured more than $100 billion into this rural Mississippi telephone company, and basically, Worldcom has done nothing with the money except buy other phone companies. As a result, the company now sits, as of Sept. 30, 2001, with worthless goodwill on its balance sheet totaling more than $50 billion — so far as I am aware, the biggest such mountain of fake assets in all of corporate America. Add to that some $30 billion of long-term debt, plus $10 billion of unpaid bills and other short-term obligations, and you've pretty much got the whole WorldCom financial picture.
And here's the really interesting thing: Over the course of the 1990s, this $100 billion Mont Blanc of waste has not been able to generate a single dime of net new cash for the business, with all free cash flow coming from stock sales and debt financings (the “cash Flows From Investing” part of the company's financials). In other words, the second largest telecommunications carrier in the country hasn't actually been a sound business from Day One, but has only seemed to be so because the economy was growing and stock prices were rising.<<

msnbc.com



To: sylvester80 who wrote (26405)2/3/2002 2:44:20 PM
From: LTK007  Respond to of 99280
 
a get a 50% retrace on COMPX at about 1745 and about 1060 on SPX. That's from sept low to jan.high.