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To: Charles Gryba who wrote (157632)	2/3/2002 1:50:33 PM
From: wanna_bmw	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Constantine, Re: "First, ms compilers still don't have any decent support for the P3, why do you think that support for the P4 is imminent? There are many more P3's out there than P4s." What are you talking about? The current MVC++ completely supports Pentium III and optimizations. It optimizes around the cache, around the decoders, around all parts of the micro-architecture. If you were to run a comparison, you would see that MVC++ allows the Coppermine Pentium III to outperform all previous Pentium chips by a much greater margin than if an earlier version of MVC++ were used. I remember several web sites doing tests on this (maybe at Aceshardware, RWT, Ars-Technica??? - I can't remember). MS has always optimized around Intel architecture. They even optimize around AMD architecture, too. The most current compiler release allows the Athlon to run even faster with respect to the Pentium III. These optimizations can be easily done by choosing the right instructions, and putting them in the right order at compile time. This is done all the time. Re: "Second, who is to say that Intel's compiler not only contains p4 optimizations but specific cpu vendor checks to disallow optimizations on the athlon ( like sysmark2001 did before it was patched )." You're just going to have to take that up with Van Smith and the other Conspiracy Theorists. Re: "Third, since Intel's compiler is proprietary I don't think MS includes any source code from Intel into theirs. I think MS may give users the option to compile through to the Intel compiler but I don't think anyone would especially if they make mass-produced shrink-wrapped software." You're wrong about that. Intel needs to get these optimizations out to improve the performance of the Pentium 4. It gives them an enormous competitive advantage. The Athlon has already had its turn - Microsoft will eventually adopt Intel's implementation for the Pentium 4. It's only a matter of time before the code gets stable and robust, and that time may be imminent. wbmw