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To: Math Junkie who wrote (734)2/3/2002 12:23:17 PM
From: Nadine Carroll  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 6945
 
Richard, Oslo created a transitional arrangement, where it was hoped that positive measures on the ground would build trust. Didn't happen.

On the Israeli side, they did yield the land, give the PA guns, establish the cooperative arrangements, and educate and inform for peace; they recognized the Palestinian national movement. But they also kept building settlements, which was most unhelpful, even though it was not prohibited by Oslo.

On the Palestinian side, they took the land, established security forces and cooperated for a while in the cooperative arrangements. But the PA completely failed to establish law and order in its territories, their rule is much more like a collection of mob bosses claiming turf. The money Arafat got for economic development went into Swiss bank accounts. Hamas provides the only social services. So far from educating from peace, they teach their children that the Jews stole the historical Arab land of Palestine (a political entity that did not exist before the establishment of the PA in 1993), and that ancient Judea never existed. Then of course, they returned to terrorism. In short, the PA broke everything it had committed to under Oslo.

So, given the outcome, yes, it's a very unworkable situation. Oslo required Arafat to be another Nelson Mandela. Unfortunately, he turned out to be another Robert Mugabe instead.



To: Math Junkie who wrote (734)2/3/2002 12:40:38 PM
From: Zeev Hed  Respond to of 6945
 
Richard, that is exactly the opportunity that Arafat has missed. The Oslo accords set the principle of mutual recognition (Israel recognized the PLO as the representative of the Palestinian, replacing in essence Jordan, while the PLO agreed to recognize the right of Israel to exist (as if Israel needed that "recognition") within safe and recognized boundaries. Part of the agreement was that incitement to the destruction of Israel will cease and that PLO removes from its charter the call for the elimination of the Jewish state. Unfortunately, Arafat, by not delivering on his promises, missed the creation of a Palestinian state. The Palestinian people are paying for that folly with misery, lack of national determination, and constant humiliation. The Israeli are paying a heavy price as well, most soldiers I know do not enjoy the role of "opressors", and of course, none enjoy having their kids being shot at, their festivities disrupted by suicide bombers, and the permeating fear that tomorrow might not be.

Zeev



To: Math Junkie who wrote (734)2/5/2002 9:08:06 PM
From: Thomas M.  Respond to of 6945
 
Oslo was simply a formalization of Israeli occupation of West Bank, Gaza, and Jerusalem. The primary source of conflict - the settlements - actually accelerated after Oslo.

zmag.org

Tom