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To: 49thMIMOMander who wrote (17987)2/3/2002 9:28:23 PM
From: Bilow  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Hi ilmarinen; Re: "Wrong statistics, I did not define the championship of the most serial killer, but the most serial killers." Since there is no world wide data gathering system for serial killers, you are stuck with the statistics that are brought by the media. Since the media is focused on the US, it't natural and normal that the US (and Britain) would dominate the numbers.

The only way to obviate that bias is to only look at the big time scores, and I demonstrated that the USA is only a small fraction of those numbers. Especially when you consider the fact that some of the US high scores are not backed by hard evidence. (Like Lucas claiming to have killed 100 when he's only been shown to have killed 6.)

Re: "Ashcroft could not survive for long, all those statues and those breastfeeding congresspersons, ..." I can only supposet that this is a thrust to the effect that the US' alleged excessive modesty towards nakedness carries with it something to do with serial killing. If so, this is just more BS like the old studies suggesting that the Swedes killed themselves more than normal. The fact is that US serial killing is exactly what you would expect from a nation that goes out of its way to collect all the information on serial killers. If the rest of the world did the same, (and the rest of the world had US standards in ease of body dumping), the rest of the world would have matching serial killer rates.

We're all humans, ilmarinen. Same genes. We all act pretty much the same.

If the "first female serial killer" you're talking about is this one, aileenwuornos.com then you should take into account the possibility that this is just BS intended to market a movie / book. Female serial killing undoubtedly dates to the founding of the US in 1776, and existed in the colonies before that. (Just very rare, as are female serial killers in general.) Humans just haven't changed that much.

In particular:
It’s important, however, to dispel some of the hyperbole surrounding the Wuornos case at the outset. She was not America’s first female serial killer. Women have been murdering serially for as long as men, though their victims are usually family members or acquaintances, and they most often choose poison over other means of disposal.
crimelibrary.com

-- Carl