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To: LLCF who wrote (14413)	2/5/2002 1:13:05 AM
From: Moominoid	Respond to of 74559

Sure the Palestinians are poor and are "oppressed" and I don't blame the average guy for the mis-steps of their leaders over time, but it is those leaders mistakes that largely brought this on themselves. However, on the whole people in that part of the world don't seem to need the Israelis to put them in a bad way.... see Iraq, Syria (socialist dictatorship), and Lebanon (civil war) and the average Palestinian is better off materially than the average Egyptian. Jordan is a relative success story despite its location. So maybe the Palestinians could have done as well left to their own devices.... When the conflict with the IRA was in full swing in Northern Ireland Britain usually got cooperation from the Irish government on controlling the terrorist groups which tried to hide in Ireland. I wonder what they would have done, with little or zero cooperation from Ireland, even encouragement at times by the Irish (followed by token moves the other way) and Irish police also moonlighting in militia groups taking shots at British troops across the border... Previously Israel had this situation in Lebanon in 1982. The Lebanon war wasn't too good as a solution. Now Israel has the same problem from Palestinian controlled territory and is doing similar moves to try to stop it. The difference now is that while in 1982 Palestinian attacks on Israel may have been seen as legitimate resistance to occupation now the situation is quite different. Israel and the Palestinians signed a peace agreement and ceded most of the major population centres to Palestinian control and were in further negotiations. At that point Arafat decided to use the military weapon against Israel again. Now maybe he regrets that. The Israelis are not letting him off so easily. David