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To: d[-_-]b who wrote (142335)	2/4/2002 2:20:30 PM
From: TimF	Respond to of 1578924

I agree. The evidence that you are talking about does support the argument you are trying to make. My point was meerly about the difculty in convincing people based on that evidence because they can always mention some other factor. The evidence is enough for me at least lacking better information or evidence but its not enough for me to use to change other peoples minds, it usually will not work for that purpose. Tim

To: d[-_-]b who wrote (142335)	2/4/2002 6:22:48 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1578924

Yes, the crime rate could have just been rising as it appears to have been. But if removing guns from the hands of law abiding citizens was the solution to gun crime you could have reasonably expected the numbers to be flat to down. England has a history of disarming themselves, it's part of their culture. I wish them success with their gun crime fight, but I doubt they have found the policy that would work here since they haven't yet found one that works there. It already works there.......their crime rate is insignificant compared to ours. You are quibbling over a minor issue; you keep tweaking the date in the hopst of finding a basis of support for your thesis that gun control does not work. Please explain to me the reason[s] which reasonably account for why England's gun offences are only .013 of the US number when its population is more than .18 the size of the US? If you can not admit that gun control is responsible at least in part for the sizeable difference in the level of gun violence in the two countries, then there is not point for further discussion. The English have a history of gun control; we have had little to none.