To: Alighieri who wrote (142346 ) 2/4/2002 3:25:22 PM From: TimF Respond to of 1578813 Where I live I can't get to work without using my car everyday...So my car is a necessity.... True guns are not a necessity for most people, but they do stop or prevent at least hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions of crimes each year in the US. Also the right to own them is protected in the constitution which is not the case for cars. Still, we regulate cars to the nth degree with licences, registrations, insurance, car inspections, etc... Not every state has inspections. If you dont drive on public roads you will not normally have to have the car inspected nor will you need a licence. Anyone can own a car even if your licence has been yanked, or you are not old enough to have a licence yet, or you have in the past been convicted of a felony including a felony that involved the use of a car. There is little regulation involving car ownership and most of what regulation exists is to get taxes or to make theft more difficult. I fail to follow the connection of your sentence to the original context ... Youre statement was about how we make DUI/DWI illegal. My point was that the penaltees for reckless use of a firearm are much worse then those for DUI/DWI. I don't think the use of cars or guns on privately owned lands is an issue worth debating... Fine I wont debate it if its ok with you that someone own a gun and keep it on private land with little restrictions. The overall point is that there are a lot more regulations or laws regarding private ownership of guns then there are regarding ownership of cars. The regulations about cars are mostly regulations about driving cars not owning or pocessing them, they are about use, not ownership. And if you use a gun in an illegal way the penalty is normally a lot worse then if you use a car in an illegal way. If guns where treated like cars there would be a lot less to stop people from owning them and lower penaltees for dangerous use of them. It is debatable that they don't work well, but if they do not, it is probably because the NRA has made it economically difficult to perfect them through their opposition. Even if they work as designed they impeed the ability of the gun to work as designed in many situations. An air bag does not keep you from driving. Yes...yes...the gunfight at the OK corral argument... There was a lot less violent on the average in the times and places that where called "the old west" then during the last few decades. You can call it "the gunfight at the OK corral" if you want but at least hundreds of thousands of crimes are prevented or stopped by ordinary citizens welding their privately owned firearms in the US each year. If a criminal attacks someone intent on murder, robbery or rape, the attack will usually be over before the cops can get there. They might be able to catch the criminal (of course a lot of times they do not) but its relatively rare that they can stop the crime. Tim