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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: ThirdEye who wrote (224980)2/4/2002 8:46:29 PM
From: CYBERKEN  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 769670
 
Bill Sammon's book was on the NYT bestseller list for months. It is only ignored in the left wing media-where they have been whistling past the election fraud graveyard for over a year now. The left's main weapon is to revise history immediately-while it's still a media event. It is a very effective totalitarian weapon. Lenin and Goebbels, looking up from Hell, must be kicking themselves for not thinking of it in their day.

But, like all Carvillian propaganda, it's benefits are short run. At the end of the day, the story of 2000 is told buy the 100% "turnout" in Philadelphia, the "cigarettes for registration" crusade in Milwaukee, the illegal poll hours in St. Louis, the "Lets scare the old bastards to death and drive them into the streets" tactic in South Florida, the "Fuck the military, their votes don't count" court actions in Florida, and-worst of all-the obscene and racist propaganda campaign aimed black voters to convince them that they were "disenfranchised" by racist election officials and cops in an election where their turnout was up 50%.

That's the Clinton/Gore legacy, and it will keep the Democrats out of the White House for the next generation...



To: ThirdEye who wrote (224980)2/4/2002 8:51:45 PM
From: CYBERKEN  Respond to of 769670
 
The USSC was given a question to answer, and they-very wisely-saw who the criminals were, and ran them off. It's only a mystery to the left. Losing by 500 votes out of 100 million is tough to take, but that's politics, and you run again next time. Being caught in a massive nationwide fraud, and losing to boot, that changes the game forever more.

Recount THAT!



To: ThirdEye who wrote (224980)2/4/2002 11:41:28 PM
From: Selectric II  Respond to of 769670
 
That's really quite a crock, but nice try.



To: ThirdEye who wrote (224980)2/5/2002 1:28:21 AM
From: Srexley  Respond to of 769670
 
"As for the hand recounts, my recollection was that there was a provision in Florida law that permitted it"

So you cannot (as I predicted) give me the legal reason why the selective hand recount should have been allowed. There was nothing on the books that justified it. A judge in Florida (Charles Barton, I think) ruled against Boise and Gore resoundingly but was overruled by the split FL SC without any of the review necesary to do so.

"the blatantly partisan manner in which the USSC ruled"

It just seemed blatant to you. They ruled in a way that illustrates how the right uses the law to uphold justice and the left uses it to create your version of the "truth". The whole charade should have never gotten past the stage that was called for in FL law at the time of the election which was that there be a mandatory machine recount if the votes are closer than 1/2%. They were, and there was and Bush won. Gore and his lawyers (75 or so I believe) went out to create their version of the "truth", which somehow was that Gore had won. The conditions that were needed to get into a hand count were not met. Gore's lawyers did there best to show that the machine recount was flawed and they got RUINED in court, only to have the higher court COMPLETELY disregard the lower court.

The US SC HAD to stop the circus, and they used the constitution and FL law to do it. SEVEN of them thought the recount provisions created by the FL SC (after the election) were incorrect. How is that partisan? The five memeber majority was strictly ruling on whether there was enough time to give the FL SC a THIRD chance. I am surprised that count was not nine to nothing. The liberal judges apparantly think you can just keep trying until you come up with something.

"The election issue is actually a good example of the relativity of truth"

It is a good example of your version of the "truth", but again, truth is not relative. Beliefs are.



To: ThirdEye who wrote (224980)2/5/2002 7:39:41 AM
From: jlallen  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
And whether Florida Court of Appeals or Florida State Supreme Court ruled for or against any given challenge or ruled in a way that you agreed with or disagreed with does not excuse the blatantly partisan manner in which the USSC ruled with no precedent in law.

This statement is a stinking demolib pinhead lie.
Read and learn so you don't sound so freakin' ignorant.

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