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To: TobagoJack who wrote (14498)2/5/2002 12:51:28 PM
From: elmatador  Respond to of 74559
 
'Enron factor' lifts gold to four-month high FT
By Adrienne Roberts
Published: February 4 2002 19:19 | Last Updated: February 5 2002 13:53



Gold prices rose to a four-month high on Tuesday, helped by stock market nerves and a decline in the dollar caused by concerns about accounting practices at US blue-chip companies.

At around 1200 GMT, London spot gold was at $290.35 a troy ounce, compared with Monday's close of $287.40.

Rhona O'Connell at the World Gold Council said that the "Enron factor" seemed to be fuelling demand for gold as concern about accounting practices and a string of fourth-quarter results from US blue-chip companies had brought "bouts of fragility" to the financial markets.

Gold prices also responded to news that South Africa's largest producer was not planning any forward sales this year.

Anglogold said it would deliver into maturing hedge contracts this year without replacing them - a decision that Kelvin Williams, executive director for marketing, said appeared to be part of a broader industry trend.

Also at midday on Tuesday in London, March Brent crude oil futures were down 21 cents at $19.60 per barrel. In New York on Monday, Nymex crude closed down 31 cents at $20.07.

Kuwait said it would take 15 to 30 days to restore power to northern oilfields after last week's explosion, with a loss in output of 280,000 barrels a day.



To: TobagoJack who wrote (14498)2/5/2002 6:24:31 PM
From: elmatador  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74559
 
Gold shares set record EMERGING MARKETS
Financial Times; Feb 5, 2002

Gold producers soared to record highs in Johannesburg, propelled by the prospects of reduced forward bullion sales in the market and the consequent impact on the gold price.

AngloGold, the number one producer, set the pace with a leap of 8 per cent to a high of R520. Gold Fields, the second largest producer, surged to a peak of R77.20 but last traded 2.6 per cent higher at R76.50. The company added to the cheer by reporting a tripling in second quarter earnings as a result of the weak rand and higher output.

Harmony gained 4.5 per cent to R97.20 while Durban Roodeport Deep soared 22.7 per cent to R27.

Overall, the gold index jumped 5.3 per cent, extending last week's 14 per cent rally. The all-share index finished with a gain of 0.5 per cent at 10,586.1.

Copyright: The Financial Times Limited 1995-1998



To: TobagoJack who wrote (14498)2/5/2002 8:17:56 PM
From: pezz  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74559
 
Today's report; Sold of the rest of my BEL @ 7.55 average [about ] Looks like I wuz the only one selling any how still made $2.00 on todays sale. Bought ONDI average 11.03 It's extended here and i could probably get it for cheaper if I wait till tomorrow ,but I just got my feet wet and can buy more.

<<I can begin our 3-weeks long holiday starting in 48 hours>>

Is it just me or are you always goin on holiday? ...whata life!

<< I may buy massively in NEM tonight >>

looks a bit extended here to me ...but that's what makes horse racing.Good luck......Wait I mean I hope ya make money but Gold goes down......Or somtin like that.

P Q4



To: TobagoJack who wrote (14498)3/8/2002 7:46:01 PM
From: TobagoJack  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 74559
 
Hi Jay, I am sitting at 30k feet in a … let me see … oh yes … aluminum tube, ah, here it is, a China Eastern Airbus 320-200 jet going from Shanghai to Hong Kong.

I just read the previously downloaded but subsequently misplaced posts, no doubt due to my PC memory fault, on racism, Zionism, ignore buttons, and a bet about whether the economy will recover this year. Saturday morning will prove to be busy, with issues I know nothing about and physical exercise with Apple, the beautifully athletic and built-to-last physical trainer, accompanied by troppo-coconut-calypso drums, strings, and nonsensical lyrics concerning liming in the office towers, fete at the stock exchange, and bacchanalian wining in the Jacuzzi.

Now I am back in HK and read a taunt from my friend Pezz.

Message 17169380

Let me take matters one at a time, lest the enthusiasm for ACF Mike’s Bull Part Deux, shifting paradigms in the morning, and hopes of salvation built on top of a sand castle floating within the gossamer of a shimmering mirage overtakes me.

Oops, I just did something naughty and mischievous, as usual. I put myself on SI Ignore. Perhaps not very surprisingly, I can no longer see myself. Like, gone, in a click.

Now I put the last ten posters on Ignore, and wham, very quiet in the arena.

Now I put myself on unignore, zoom, I have my private diary space, forever.

I put Maurice on unignore. Zip, I have a QCOM thread:0!

Technology, engineers and kids-at-heart:0)

Updating this BBR relevant subject matter,

Message 17012307

… and thus distancing from your previous and deliberate provocation on Indians and Muslims and such, I truthfully report that the NAV is down 0.21%, and all pretty much remain as it should, on money earth:

Cash 44.5% (37% Euro, 10% CHF, 8% AUSD, 3% HKD, 42% USD)
Bonds 22%
Gold and platinum metals 5% (80% gold)
Rental Real Estate 21% (value at lower of cost and market)
Non-income generating Thai beach land 1.3%
Equity 5.7% (AAPTY, AMGN, AOL, AU, AWK, CHL, CMCSK, CWT, NEM, SNE, SWC, Furukawa Electric, Hongkong & Shanghai Banking HK.5, …) w/ precious metal companies accounting for 2.3 out of 5.7%.

I have outstanding short positions in March NEM Put 20 & (insanely, but perhaps saved by ACF Mike types) covered Call 20, and NEM June (stupidly, but maybe not, because of CNBC watchers) covered Call 20.

Message 17046227

I also have a long position in RDN August Put 40 (plenty of time for that bomb to go off yet, just do not know which side of the hatch the bomb is on).

The music system is pumping out the lyrical cacophony of the happy calypso islands … incessant drumbeats, twangy string plucks, and nonsensical rants. I love it … “and we wine, we wine, we wine …” Ah, love it! I think Apple will be surprised at my vigor today.

Now to pezz’s taunt on gold. I do not care. Given that I have NEM covered calls and puts, I do not much care where gold heads to in the proverbial here and now, and as I commented to ACF Mike a few days ago, USD 150/oz is as good a price for me as USD 1500. I am looking and hoping to be able to accumulate more, much more. See here …

Message 17154865

How strange, I hear you say, since the recovery from a recession that never was is.

I am thinking recoveries from recession require increased capital investment of the productive and profit earning sort, generate by newly de-leveraged J6P hired by companies with a glimmer of a hope at expanding markets and margins. Rebuilding a bit of inventory stock alone does not make a robust recovery.

I am also pondering that housing recovery is also good for enforcing a recovery. Alas, housing bubble never left any foam in our faces, and so no recovery there, because you cannot recover from ‘perfect’ health.

So that leaves us with consumer spending, preferably by above mentioned newly de-leverage J6P. Yup, so far so good, piling on more credit card debt just as interest rate is heading up.

Interest rate is heading up, but then I mentioned that already. It is doing so in anticipation of a recovery, and in expectation of inflation, not forgetting that capital has been mis-priced, and now, with Japanese officialdom manipulation and pending trade wars, the twin catheters of trade and fiscal deficit are about to be ripped from the outstretched arms of the troubled patient.

My bet is that tax rate and collection urgency will soon rise. I am thinking that between the synchronized 'recovery' in Japan and Europe, along with the US, money will be needed everywhere at a cost.

Besides, CB’s concern, the hegemon status, is not a cheap tea party, and neither is preparing for baby boom retirement.

So, you see, the recovery came just in the nick of time, as if perfectly timed by the newly disbanded office of strategic influence, and the 60k newly employed is certainly good news.

The recovery will prove to be tepid, and thus unable to justify the current and fully good-news discounted equity market, especially in face of the rapidly discounting bond market.

Chugs, Jay