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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: James Calladine who wrote (10189)	2/5/2002 4:14:35 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 28931

I am my own guru which is the way I like it I don't need anyone else to tell me to strive or not to strive, that is not the question I do what I do I know that I am as responsible and as examined as I can be each moment but I don't worry about it when I am happy I feel happy and when I am sad I feel sad when I observe people I enjoy observing them and when I comment on them I enjoy commenting on them and when I judge them I enjoy judging them and when I refrain from judging I enjoying refraining all these things, and all others, are elements of my experience of aliveness which is interesting it amuses me to be alive I don't need answers as to why, or how- unless I happen to stumble across some they are unnecessary to my being will it be amusing to be dead? we'll all find out until then I just keep doing what I want to do

To: James Calladine who wrote (10189)	2/5/2002 4:18:09 PM
From: Bill Fischofer	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 28931

Yet more messages of disparagement? Is there nothing with which Adi Da is pleased? A very strange teaching indeed. Regarding each life ending in death. Isn't that like calling a day wasted because each day ends in night? If death is evidence of "failure" then will Adi Da be demonstrating his "success" by choosing not to die?

To: James Calladine who wrote (10189)	2/5/2002 5:11:39 PM
From: Frederick Smart	Respond to of 28931

Divine Providence vs. Justice.... >>You mention you feel that real justice does not exist. This puts you somewhat in bed with Adi Da who says: "The realm of politics is the realm of conventional striving, and it tends to dominate human life with dehumanizing force, unless Wisdom is valued by the people and by those in power. Until the culture of Wisdom produces individual responsibility and general agreement on the ultimate Situation of human existence, all talk of "freedom" and "justice" is nothing more than political gossip">> Divine Providence is justice with FREEDOM. Mankind's understanding of justice does not allow for FREEDOM. Here's ONE from Thomas Paine: "The end of all political associations is the preservation of the natural and imprescriptible rights of man; and these rights are liberty, property, security, and resistance of oppression." Rights of Man: Verse 2 The more we impune, trample or masquarade serving the rights of individuals the more we enslave ourselves to the arbitrary whims of individuals who seek to claim, manage and control the energy, light and love that is being abused and used to support the exercise of power over the people by these political, religious or economic organizations. An example of something masquarading for "freedom" is an NFL player being compelled and paid to salute the prosecution of war on prime time TV during the SuperBowl. Another example of this politcally and economicaly postured freedom masquarade is U2 singing Where The Streets Have No Name during the halftime to SuperBowlXXXVI while viewers get dizzy trying to distinguish between the lead singer's inner coat US flag design and the red-white and blue version of E-Trade's logo. FREEDOM can only be purely expressed by INDIVIDUALS who individuate and proclaim the truth behind the Divine connection we ALL possess with our ONE Lord God in Heaven who's will is perfect and FREE and which seeks ZERO/NO conditions, restrictions or limitations on any individual's FREEWILL. It's mankind who imposes these conditions, restrictions and limitations on personal freeedom. And the more we as individuals claim, blame and shame each other the more mankind's Black Hole slavery model of control keeps getting bigger and bigger and bigger. For the matrix of the Black Hole feeds off of divisions, separations, restrictions and conditions placed on the flow of energy, light and love - ie. FREEDOM itself - from our ONE Lord God in Heaven. Washington D.C. is a Wizard of Oz show. Corporate America is the same Wizard of Oz show. Mankind's Religion is the same Wizard of Oz show. State and local governments are the same Wizard of Oz show. It isn't "the people" that cause the problems. It's the spritual matrix they are serving that's compelling them to view the world conditionally - ie. with limits, controls, restrictions that all work to wage war against individual rights and individual freedoms. I'd say we have fewer individuals rights and freedoms today that at any time in our country's 226 year history. Thomas Paine et. al. are beside themselves with how far the curtain of obfuscation, confusion, restriction and limitation has been pulled over the heads of individuals in this country all in the name of a War on Terrorism and Homeland Insecurity. We will reap what we sow. It's as simple as that. 119293!! ne