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To: Ilaine who wrote (18117)2/5/2002 11:41:19 PM
From: Nadine Carroll  Respond to of 281500
 
To claim on the one hand to be democratic, and on the other hand to want a Jewish state, is to lie to oneself, and to others. It is racism, IMO.

The French want to be both democratic and French. Is that racist too? No nation outside of America offers, as a matter of principle, a contract that just anybody can sign up to. Most others connect a country with an ethnos, a historical people, like the French or the Germans, as defined by language, culture, religion, and politics.

Don't bug me about moral equivalence with the Palestinians, my tax dollars don't support their military.

They do. Just not as much.

the Palestinians have at least an equal, if not superior, claim to the land which is now Israel because they were there longer than the Jews qua Jews, and more recently.

Longer, no. More recently, yes, mostly. But as Arabs, Christian or Muslim. Not as Palestinians qua Palestinians; that identity is less than forty years old.



To: Ilaine who wrote (18117)2/6/2002 6:04:04 AM
From: SirRealist  Respond to of 281500
 
Having grown up in the Jim Crow segregated south, listening to arguments about "those people are animals" makes me want to hurl.

I wholeheartedly agree that such statements are so repulsive that I start tuning out the rest of someone's opinions, if they advance that one.