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To: scaram(o)uche who wrote (930)2/6/2002 1:51:22 AM
From: scaram(o)uche  Respond to of 2243
 
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Other companies have also recognised the value of our joint venture partners, most recently Eli Lilly and Amgen with Isis; GlaxoSmithKline with INEX; Pfizer with Athersys; Sanofi Synthelabo with Atrix; Abbott with Idun.

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Products under development 52

Stage of clinical development 3 Phase III
15 Phase II
8 Phase I
26 Pre-clinical



To: scaram(o)uche who wrote (930)2/6/2002 1:51:31 AM
From: aknahow  Respond to of 2243
 
BGEN is most likely bidder. Antegren 100% ownership would remove serious threat to having to share MS market with Antegren/Avonex combination or worse Antegren alone.

BGEN recently changed its' tone slightly to saying that it would consider purchases from one of saying it believed internal development was the best path.



To: scaram(o)uche who wrote (930)2/6/2002 2:01:51 AM
From: Spekulatius  Respond to of 2243
 
<<Well, they're going to get bids. >>
I sure hope so.I never invested in ELN because earnings were overstated through capitalized R&D expenses (this is what these joint ventures were created for).
However,it appears to me that these JV's are no shams. ELN has developed real products, using the biotechs JV. its funny, that the JV business model was "approved" for years and years and now gets flamed because of "Enronitis". At a little more than 2x revenues, ELN's market cap is now very low, compared to slower growth pharma (5x revenues). Good or bad accounting, ELN has real drugs in the market and real drugs in the pipeline and smart investors or a smart pharma CEO will recognize this. I own a few ELN shares now.



To: scaram(o)uche who wrote (930)2/6/2002 2:21:13 AM
From: WhatsUpWithThat  Respond to of 2243
 
Even if earnings are overstated by a third (as per the article), pretty good PE here...

WUWT



To: scaram(o)uche who wrote (930)2/6/2002 2:31:06 AM
From: John Metcalf  Respond to of 2243
 
"If we got a bid, management would not stand in the way," said Mr Lynch.

Message 17019433

Well, they're going to get bids.

Geeze, at $4B market cap, even a concrete company would bid for them. But, assuming any bidder would be a pharmaceutical, an acquisition of Elan would be accretive to earnings at 3-4 times the current share price, and that's without allowing for cash on hand, plant and equipment, sales force, intellectual property, and upside from 55 JV's. Let the bidding begin, probably at $50 USD.