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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Neocon who wrote (43823)	2/7/2002 10:43:51 AM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

I think we have gone berserk with allegations of conflict of interest. I agree with that, as with allegations of sexual improprieties. For example, in the energy plan worked out by the Administration, was there one thing that would not have been more or less expected, given the Administration's nature? I have seen nothing. I haven't either. It looks exactly like a plan that was developed by a bunch of current and former energy executives. There's no reason to expect that a former energy executive, once he became President, might consider the perspectives of non-energy-executive-Americans, the interests of the country at large, in developing the plan. Or at least feel a need to explain to the public why the interests of energy executives coincide with our own. Nor is there any reason to expect that the participants might find shame in that in the absence of actual bribery. There's no reason at all to expect statesmanship from our leadership. Karen P.S. BTW and FWIW, the Pres gave a nice speech on faith at today's prayer breakfast.

To: Neocon who wrote (43823)	2/7/2002 11:25:47 AM
From: coug	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 82486

Hi Neocon, IMO, the Enron mess is a classic example of why a society needs regulation of the various facets within the society. Because, unfortunately, people are unable to govern themselves. If we could, we could get "government off our back" as the more conservative elements of our society call for. These kind abuses, whether it be social or environmental lead to all major regulation..1932 Securities regs, the environmental regs of the 70's etc.. Many times too late. The tendency of many individuals is to push and push the limits of the best interests of society for their own short term gain. And if allowed to continue, not unlike a runaway cancer cell, they could destroy their host and in the end destroy themselves. An evolutionary thing, I imagine, survival of the fittest. But it seems the fittest, after destroying everything around them will eventually destroy themselves. Ironic IMO, because many of the more conservative elements that do not believe in evolution are the ones that are the best examples. Just my thoughts, coug