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To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (822)	2/7/2002 6:27:14 PM
From: Emile Vidrine	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 6945

List of Israeli reservists refusing to murder Palestinian civilians grows.. "The Israeli occupation army has decided to suspend and threatened to dismiss scores of reserve soldiers from their posts in an effort to quell the largest internal revolt in the ranks since the start of the 16-month Palestinian uprising. The reservists, who include combat officers, have signed a petition saying they will refuse to serve in the occupied West Bank and Gaza Strip because Israel is "dominating, expelling, starving and humiliating" the Palestinian population. By yesterday, the petition had 173 names. The figure has risen from 100 in less than a week, adding momentum to an acrimonious national debate. It is the first big rift in Israeli public opinion over Israel's conduct of the conflict since Ariel Sharon was elected Prime Minister in a landslide victory 11 months ago. The army has reacted with annoyance and unease, not least because it makes wide use of reservists to patrol and guard Jewish settlements in the occupied territories. The refuseniks insist that their objections are principled, and have stressed that they are willing to defend Israel within its pre-1967 borders. One of them, Lieutenant Ishai Sagi, has described how, during one two-week stint in the West Bank, he was ordered to open fire at Palestinians who picked up stones for throwing at the troops. "There were no specifics about whether [the person] was a child, a woman or an elderly man," he said, "And there were no specifics as to where to shoot [the person]." He told one interviewer: "I don't think that what the Israeli occupation forces do in the territories contributes in any way to defending Israel itself ... "Everything that we do in there all the horrors, all the tearing down of houses and trees, all the roadblocks, everything is just for one purpose, the settlers, who I believe are illegally there. So I believe that the [orders] that I got were illegal and I won't do them again."

To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (822)	2/7/2002 11:58:18 PM
From: Thomas M.	Respond to of 6945

Speaking of Nazi hunters, would not you think that the Mufti of Jerusalem would have been hunted down, charged with war crimes, tried, and executed like Eichmann? Good point. Hmmm . . . Tom

To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (822)	2/8/2002 12:11:25 AM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 6945

Speaking of Nazi hunters, would not you think that the Mufti of Jerusalem would have been hunted down, charged with war crimes, tried, and executed like Eichmann? How and by whom, once he got to Syria? Do you think the Syrians would have handed him over? If not, how could Israelis have got at him, he always had his own guards around him? If they had, don't you think taking so prominent a figure would have sparked a war? You really are not thinking in the real world. How did Adolf Eichmann get away, as Nadine claims? What do you mean, as I claim? Are you now doubting that Eichmann was a Nazi, or that he got away to Argentina, another Nazi-friendly state?