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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: coug who wrote (43916)2/8/2002 4:23:30 PM
From: GROUND ZERO™  Respond to of 82486
 
Okay, okay... hehehehehe... hey, guys, listen... I really appreciate all the attention, and I'm sure I deserve it, but if you guys insist on hurling these kinds of hurtful and humiliating verbal assaults at each other, kindly take it over to the Insults Only thread where it belongs... after all, where are your manners? hahahahahahahahaha, this is too much...<g> Coug, you really are entertaining, I enjoy your deadpan sense of humor, I mean, for the moment I thought you were serious...<g> Great thread you have here!!!!!

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GZ



To: coug who wrote (43916)2/9/2002 4:25:44 AM
From: Dan B.  Respond to of 82486
 
Apparently you cannot see the time spent by liberals doing the same? Is there really a difference? I think not.

Interesting, is the notion you have concerning the humorlessness of insults, as you yourself are so sour and insulting here. Enigmas are wonderful things, and they catch up with us all, eh? Rickles with Carson, I LOL, but you can't see it....and that's ok- there is a time to be sad for things- humor is a fine line, and so your point is quite valid in a very real way, at least up to the point where you realize fully what humor actually is about- or not, I can't decide which/when what?

I'm remembering the venerable Robert Heinlien's "Stranger In A Strange Land," in which his Martian character groks(understands) humor for the first time. He explains that one can't name a joke, or anything that anyone laughs at, that doesn't involve poor effort, something/someone getting hurt or broken, embarrassment, rude greedy behavior, or even people getting killed, etc. Taken literally, you'd have to cry with sympathy for the subject of any joke, pratfall, and yes, insult. Heinleins character almost dies a psychological death from the pain of thinking about a joke- so sad are the realities of it- 'til he concludes that laughter is the outlet for easing the pain of the awful subject matter that confronts us daily, which could easily in fact spur dreadful death-defying sadness constantly in us all, otherwise.

Read the book for a better written explanation...but suffice it to say that you COULD lighten up here, as right now, your personal disdain is the funniest thing going.

And I do defy you to name a single joke that isn't rooted in some insufferably sad thing.

Though you cannot name such a joke, humor remains a positive thing, since it is not only a relief valve for the awful around us, it is a recognition that we are or can be/do better than the subjects of the stories we laugh at.

Of note here is such a wonderful thing as laughing/smiling at the meager and inadequate efforts of a child reaching out into his/her world...we laugh as we know improvement will/can be had, and shrug off our own roots in extreme inability and frailty. A laugh or smile is, therefore, a recognition of solutions possible, rather than a dwelling upon the awful situations inherent in all jokes/insults.

Hence, when Rickles insults, he dwells in the positive...that is, so long as you can laugh.

Laugh, my fellow S.I. buffoons, or Die!

Dan B



To: coug who wrote (43916)2/17/2002 12:18:53 AM
From: coug  Read Replies (5) | Respond to of 82486
 
And as I wander, I wonder,

Another observation arises..

Why some Right Wing "Men?" are allowed with abandon to trash free thinking liberal women with the foulest of epithets, the most obscene descriptions, of even their sexuality.. of every adjective and noun from the gutter, and get away with it.. Left leaning men NEVER say the same about the conservative women here... NEVER..

I don't know.. I guess it is accepted behavior among that group of "men?" on SI... And what is more PUZZLING, is why right wing women, ALL women, EVEN THE more moderate women here, allow it to happen, and ACCEPT that behavior.. And BE friends with them. An ENABLING PROCESS, if I ever saw one... Is that the way it is in this country ??. NO, I don't think so... I don't buy it...I NEVER WILL..

Where I come from in real life.. That would never be tolerated... They (these type of SI men?) would be shunned at the very least, by ALL people, conservative to liberal of both sexes..

Anyway.. Just another factor to place in the common denominator of this type..

c