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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Greg or e who wrote (10302)	2/8/2002 12:51:03 PM
From: Bill Fischofer	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 28931

A most interesting viewpoint. So channelling is either a hoax or something demonic? Do all "supernatural" phenomena fall into one of these two categories? Who decides which?

To: Greg or e who wrote (10302)	2/8/2002 1:01:02 PM
From: Frederick Smart	Respond to of 28931

The Top Blew Off.... >>Spiritual but not Religious. LOL! Channeled material is notorious for it's connection with the demonic. The "entity" who claimed to be Jesus, is in fact one of these Demons. The teachings themselves are what the bible refers to as doctrines of Demons. I would urge you to stay away from them. Do you have any real evidence that the bible was corrupted or as you say "sabotaged by the churches for their political economic agenda to subjugate the masses"???? Just because you don't like the message of the bible, does not mean it's not true. Greg>> ...these "religious" claim, blame and shame control models of distrust years ago. From here on out religions throughout the world are going to experience their own "Enron Effect" as more of His Energy, Light and Love sweeps directly into the minds, hearts and souls of more and more individuals who are walking out of these Wizard of Oz slave Castles of fear and control. >>"Christianity has not told us the complete truth about te Creator's supreme loving nature because it is not focusing on the essence of life: a direct experience of god - mystical union or spiritual awakening - the indespensible conditional for happiness, prosperity, and eternal life." EMPOWERMENT OF THE INDIVIDUAL IS FOUND IN A DIRECT EXPERIENCE OF INNER LIGHT From: Radiant Light, Boundless Love by Dennis Shipman, 1999 p. 98>> This is just ONE (1) ex-Catholic's opinion. Do you believe traditional "Christanity" can keep claiming the mantle of our ONE Lord God in Heaven's simple truth behind this "radiant light" of His "boundless Love?" Ask youself Greg..... What are you fighting for? Why do you keep attacking? Don't you believe in the boundless and infinite Love of our ONE Lord God in Heaven? Don't you have faith in His perfect, perfect Divine Providence that is working out all these imperfections in ways that will NOT violate our freewill? Why do you seek control? Why do you distrust? I happen to believe that these things have absolutely NOTHING to do with the real ONE (1) truth behind your divine soul which already exists, is already perfect and is there, ready willing and able to receive and share more and more and more of the infinite, unconditional Energy, Light and Love from our ONE Lord God in Heaven Jesus Christ. Let it go and step into this ONE Light and LIVE!!! We have SO much to be thankful for receiving and sharing with each other!! 119293!!

To: Greg or e who wrote (10302)	2/8/2002 2:33:17 PM
From: James Calladine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 28931

"Channeled material is notorious for it's connection with the demonic. The "entity" who claimed to be Jesus, is in fact one of these Demons" (PS-- it's = it is its = its) Two questions: 1) What specific material are you referring to? 2) What is the basis for your statements above? Justification? Proof? Opinion--whose? If your sole sole is the bible, please give us the reference and also WHERE THAT INFORMATION IN THE BIBLE CAME FROM, since the issue you are bringing up is doubt of the verity of a source. I am not a heavy-duty fan of most channeling, but your statements are not in the slightest backed up by anything at this point. Maybe you can help us on this, however. Namaste! Jim

To: Greg or e who wrote (10302)	2/8/2002 3:28:36 PM
From: Andy Thomas	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 28931

--Do you have any real evidence that the bible was corrupted or as you say "sabotaged by the churches for their political economic agenda to subjugate the masses"???? Just because you don't like the message of the bible, does not mean it's not true. -- here's the problem with the bible: even as it is in the protestant canon (i believe the catholics add the apocrypha to the list), the bible is a strange, strange book. here's what happened: in about 3-hundred-something A.D., the council of nicea was convened to decide upon the church canon; there were many books about jesus and some had to be discarded while others kept. the, 'jesus as ultimate deity, part of trinity' faction won out and that's what the accepted canon tries to outline. some call the new testament as it is, 'paulism.' go to a catholic web page and see that they say that the faction which won out was the one with the torture marks - gouged out eyes, missing limbs, etc. - thus they were the true saints at the council. go to another web page and they say that, at the council of nicea, those statist-serving, enslaving forces won out. if the subsequent behavior of the catholic church is any indication, i would say that the latter won out. perhaps again though that is too simplistic. perhaps the catholic church has both light and dark characters. some have theorized that satanists have at times infiltrated certain aspects of the catholic church and done 'evil' deeds to make the church look bad. it does have to make one wonder though, if when reading the bible and comparing to the vatican, with its vast catacombs of weird stuff which it will never let the public see; that the catholic church itself might be the harlot of babylon. anyway, that verse in romans about obeying the government; that the government is put there by god... now there's an example of some of the strangeness i'm wondering about. stalin of god? hitler of god? tojo, fdr, clinton, bush, of god? one other problem with christianity is the idea of judgement, then an eternity of stasis. no matter how heinous the acts of a person in one lifetime, why should they be held accountable for an eternity? it seems the judgement is far harsher than the crime. i cannot for the life of me visualize everlasting stasis. it seems more like a never-ending wheel. here is another thought to ponder. everyone has a different idea of what would really be an ecstatic existence - that thing called 'heaven' i would like little miniature go-cart-sized tanks and play armored war all day. that's the ticket... go-carts with automatic paintball guns... i could do that forever. how about slot cars? lots of men think of heaven as many women and just they alone as a male. one person might imagine heaven as being with one or more women, having lingerie parties and racing slot cars and playing paintball and drinking strawberry smoothies and smoking cigarettes. oh, and playing rock and roll music every night. you see? everyone has a different idea of what floats their boat.