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Politics : Formerly About Advanced Micro Devices -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: TimF who wrote (142536)	2/9/2002 11:50:03 PM
From: d[-_-]b	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1578880

twfowler, re: They have the two processor suppot but not the 4. Also they may have to work awhile to develop a reputation in 2 processor systems before people accept buying AMD in greater numbers in that area. We were discussing Sun and their reputation, they are unlikely to put a product out that doesn't scale beyond 2 way. Sun stopped using AMD products at the K6-2, they are using Intel P3 1GHZ today. Whether they decide to use a P4 is a big question mark. Laptop chips aren't even on the roadmap for Sun. The closest they ever came to a laptop was the Tadpole machines. You do understand what Sun is trying to defend against don't you? Just look at the 64 - 256 processor Linux Supercomputers IBM is putting out. IBM and HP are Sun's competitors and I don't mean their PC offerings. Both of those competitors also offer dense racks, so does Sun with it's Netra line. The difference is HP and IBM use P3's, Sun uses more expensive Sparc chips. Sun does not have the resources to compete against a CPU manufacturer such as an Intel or and AMD. They see the writing on the wall as the applications migrate from Solaris to Linux. I suppose Sun could use an AMD Athlon in a rack, but why? The price advantage isn't that great and their competitors don't seem to think AMD is a good choice for Linux servers either. I'm pretty sure Sun will choose Intel for their Linux machines. Again, I'm mostly interested in what they intend to do with the McKinley and other 64 bit offerings. You can bet your ass IBM and HP have big 64 bit Linux plans, just waiting to eat into Sun's high end Sparc based margins.