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To: SirRealist who wrote (18556)	2/11/2002 1:22:08 AM
From: SirRealist	Respond to of 281500

On Iran & Iraq, a mix of views from multiple sources: Here it seems Iran is opposing Iraq: middleeastwire.com Here it allies itself with Iraq: middleeastwire.com Here an Iranian immigrant editorializes against the US and demonstrates JohnM's concern is not without merit: middleeastwire.com This is a more objective analysis, in that it admits the possibility that Bush's words might be having a positive practical impact, though it comes to no solid conclusions: middleeastwire.com The last paragraph is revealing: economics may be the compelling issue that forces internal Iranian changes middleeastwire.com Powell, ever the diplomat, clarifies the Bush position well: middleeastwire.com .

To: SirRealist who wrote (18556)	2/11/2002 10:58:35 AM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Very interesting, especially the Preamble. Reminds me of how for years before the Revolution, when I pointed out to people that the Shah was a bastard, people would just blow me off. (I had friends from Iran - most people back then had never heard of Iran, and most of the ones who had were pro Shah because he was "our bastard.") But eventually, all chickens come home to roost. And here we are, in the freaking preamble to the Iranian constitution. >>The Dawn of the Movement The devastating protest of Imam Khumayni against the American conspiracy known as the "White Revolution", which was a step intended to stabilize the foundations of despotic rule and to reinforce the political, cultural, and economic dependence of Iran on world imperialism, brought into being a united movement of the people and, immediately afterwards, a momentous revolution of the Muslim nation in the month of Khurdad, 1342 [June 1963]. Although this revolution was drowned in blood, in reality it heralded the beginning of the blossoming of a glorious and massive uprising, which confirmed the central role of Imam Khumayni as an Islamic leader. Despite his exile from Iran after his protest against the humiliating law of capitulation (which provided legal immunity for American advisers), the firm bond between the Imam and the people endured, and the Muslim nation, particularly committed intellectuals and militant 'ulama', continued their struggle in the face of banishment and imprisonment, torture and execution. Throughout this time, the conscious and responsible segment of society was bringing enlightenment to the people from the strongholds of the mosques, centers of religious teaching, and universities. Drawing inspiration from the revolutionary and fertile teachings of Islam, they began the unrelenting yet fruitful struggle of raising the level of ideological awareness and revolutionary consciousness of the Muslim people. The despotic regime which had begun the suppression of the Islamic movement with barbaric attacks on the Fayciyyah: Madrasah, Tehran University, and all other active centers of revolution, in an effort to evade the revolutionary anger of the people, resorted to the most savage and brutal measures. And in these circumstances, execution by firing squads, endurance of medieval tortures, and long terms of imprisonment were the price our Muslim nation had to pay to prove its firm resolve to continue the struggle. The Islamic Revolution of Iran was nurtured by the blood of hundreds of young men and women, infused with faith, who raised their cries of "Allahu Akbar" at daybreak in execution yards, or were gunned down by the enemy in streets and marketplaces. Meanwhile, the continuing declarations and messages of the Imam that were issued on various occasions, extended and deepened the consciousness and determination of the Muslim nation to the utmost.<< cyberiran.com Unfortunately, the people I knew who opposed the Shah probably did not fare well under the rule of the Ayatollah, either. But that's always what happens to the middle ground when movements get polarized, isn't it?