To: horsegirl48 who wrote (6159 ) 2/13/2002 9:11:18 AM From: im a survivor Respond to of 13815 You know what I think is kind of weird.....ICGE...most people want to puke when they hear the name....well, they actually own 90 - 100% of MANY companies worth more than all of ICGE's current net market value (share price x total shares + cash - debt). They recently made comments that their core businesses were doing so well, they did not have to rely on IPO's to be sucessful...that by concentarting on their core companies, they felt they had about 15 or 20 that could be hugely sucessful.....well, just go and do some dd.....see what icge owns majority stakes in, and then look at those companies.....I must admitt, I am kind of dumfounded...I see a company ...ICGE that owns companies that are very sucessful and looking good......heck, ONE of these companies is worth more then ICGE's current value...yet they have a bunch of companies doing well...each one, they own 100% or close to it......yet, look at ICGE's current price and valuation. I cannot understand why more people dont see this and at least take a small spec position at low prices, just like buying some lottery tickets......It got a bad rep as the .bombs exploded and I think it still suffers from that....people hear the name and just like a telephone solicitor, you hang up or dont even bother listening. Well, I have been pleasantly surprised to see how sucessful their core companies have been.....and these companies will make money for icge regardless of whether the market is good enough for IPO's...They flat out stated, they no longer are looking at that as an option to ensure sucess. They have sucessful companies...can make money keeping them private, and if they keep doing as well as they are, and if the IPO market does come back...they have about 15 - 20 companies that will be making money that could be huge IPO's.....but the thing I like best is when they said, they no longer need IPO's to be sucessful...that their core companies are doing so well, they can be sucessful and very profitable just keeping them private if need be until the time is right to do an IPO..if they wish. So I have been checking the last couple months and re-took a positon, because my dd showed me severalprivate companies, kicking butt and taking names. They were owned 100% or close to it, by ICGE, and by themselves were worth more then ICGE's current valuations..... What I dint understand is why others have not noticed this and why more people are not buying this for the future....are people still so pissed at buckley, they just wint touch ICGE...are people just so disgusted with ICGE and what happned in the PAST, that they wont even look at the future? I dont know, I have no idea why people wouldnt buy some at this price just as a spec play, yet it doesnt seem to be doing much price wise. Anyway, take a look at some of their companies......very diverse...some are very, very interesting and are landing some very big deals.....I look at all of these sucessful companies and what they do, and then think about how currently, any one of the top companies is worth more then it's owner....and I dont know why more people dont see this and why ICGE stock is so depleted.....the companies they own ARE sucessfull...it's right their for all to see.....yet why does icge not see a higher valuation? Very interesting and confusing.....