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To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (226585)	2/12/2002 6:29:09 PM
From: haqihana	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 769670

J_F_, A racist???? You dumb piece of crap. The majority of Frenchmen are caucasian just as I am. How the hell can you call that racist, and retain a shred of credibility?? In WW2 the Russians never got close the France, and when Britain tried to invade, they got their butts beat, and were kicked out at Dunkirk. They did not hold the Western Front on their own. When they left Dunkirk, there was no western front. It was all Britain could do to save their own island through the Battle of Britain. Had it not been for the RAF, with a number of American pilots, they would be speaking German right now. British troops could not, and did not return to mainland Europe until D-Day, which they could not have managed with American troops, and leadership. At least read some history before making an ass out of yourself. Never mind, it impossible for you not to make an ass out of yourself, because your chances of credibility vanish with you high degree of stupid. The French were soundly defeated at Dien Ben Phew (sp?), and would have been trapped had we not stepped in to rescue the troops they had left. Yes, we left Vietnam in disgrace, and you can thank politicians for that. The only reason France helped us at all in the Revolution, was because they hated the British. All they did, as a nation, was send one of their fleets for one blockade. Lafayette came on his own, and personally financed his involvement in the Revolutionary War. Go back to school. All of this is taught in Middle School. I guess you dropped out about that time.

To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (226585)	2/13/2002 10:51:23 AM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

Actually, we did not have a lot of help from France in World War II. De Gaulle had few resources. Darlan's fleet was sunk to prevent its appropriation by the Nazis. Half the country was occupied, the other half under the Vichy regime. Even in Occupied France, a lot of people were collaborationist. It is true that the Maquis provided invaluable help in implementing the D- Day invasion, especially for our paratroopers, but it is also true that few people were involved in the Maquis. After the war, there was nearly a civil war, as kangaroo courts were convened to exact punishment on collaborators. It is true that we owed France a great debt for its help in the Revolutionary War. We pretty much paid it in the First World War, though. Certainly the Brits have been great friends, and more or less made up for the earlier unpleasantness. Still, they would have gone under without Lend- Lease and American entry into the war. In any event, I am more a Francophile: I love French food, watch French movies, have a good reading knowledge of the French language. I have met a lot of pro- American French. But face it, there is a lot of anti- Americanism, especially among the elites, and it can be quite exasperating. By the way, it is true that the Soviet Union lost a lot of people, but most of them were not Russian, but Ukrainian, Belarussian, and others. Not to mention the fact that if Stalin had cut a deal with Britain and France in the first place, instead of Hitler, all of that might not have happened.